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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
Posted by stn_sage at 06:35 PM : Sep 22, 2008

AND YOU FLAT OUT BELIEVE WRONGGGGGGGG! Even BUSH tried to do something to clean up Clinton''s debacle!!!

Even Phil Gramm, during Clinton''s administration BLOCKED a bill that would force financial institutions into putting money into the low housing industry!!

Give me a PLUCKING BREAK!
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by nextgenman September 22, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
Posted by sexistnbc at 06:40 PM : Sep 22, 2008
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Yawn.
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by nextgenman September 22, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
SO, MS. RACIST PIG, MELLLLL...where was your OBAMA when McCain needed help getting reform passed! HE WAS THERE! WHY DIDN''''T HE DO SOMETHING?

WHERE WAS OBAMA WHEN MCCAIN WAS SCREECHING OUT THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING........NOW?????

Posted by StormeyOne at 06:40 PM : Sep 22, 2008
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Yawn Rowdy. You are so boring anymore.
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by stn_sage September 22, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
Libs think they are so smart and they are dumb!

Posted by sexistnbc at 06:36 PM : Sep 22, 2008
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Well, thanks for that very smart comment, ''CON!
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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
SO, MS. RACIST PIG, MELLLLL...where was your OBAMA when McCain needed help getting reform passed! HE WAS THERE! WHY DIDN''T HE DO SOMETHING?

WHERE WAS OBAMA WHEN MCCAIN WAS SCREECHING OUT THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING........NOW?????
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by stn_sage September 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
I believe the preponderance of blame can rightly be assigned to Reagan, Bush,sr., the GOP-controlled 110th Congress, and Bush,jr.! With Clinton and the Dem-controlled Congress receiving dishonorable mention for ''going along'' with these other crooks and not doing enough to try to stop it!

The main question now becomes, what are we going to do about it?! Should we have the HUGE bailout?!

I say, ABSOLUTELY NOT! The public will ''knuckle'' through, we always have had to do that under Republican governments! We''re not REALLY talking about the public being hurt here! We''re talking about wealthy, overpaid, irresponsible businessmen and investors being hurt; in terms of, prestige, lack of monies to lose for invstors, and investors lose a little money, but for many it''s a drop in the bucket!
THEY don''t need to be rescued!

The point is, this whole bailout is to PREVENT the wealthy from sustaining ANY kind of loss! It''s NOT about protecting the ''little guy''! I SAY NO! NO! NO!
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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
Open Secrets has the list of Congressmen who have benefited from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac largesse since 1989 (inclusive). Remarkably, after only serving less than four of those 20 years, Barack Obama has vaulted to the #2 position on Capitol Hill. Only Dodd outstripped him. He took more than six times the amount that McCain received in a 20-year period.
The record shows that McCain saw the problem coming and tried to get Congress to act. In 2005, both McCain and Obama served together in the Senate. Did Obama attempt to pass this reform, sign on as a co-sponsor, or even speak out in its favor? The record is tellingly blank.

As we have seen, McCain has been talking reform for three years, with no assist from Barack Obama. And McCain at least knows the correct name of the company that got its bailout last night from the federal government. Is Team Obama so incompetent that they couldn%u2019t check the name before issuing the statement?

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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
Now remember, Obama%u2019s ads and stump speeches attack McCain and republican policies for the current financial turmoil. It is demonstrably not Republican policy and worse, it appears the man attacking McCain, Senator Obama, was at the head of the line when the piggy%u2019s lined up at the Fannie and Freddie trough for campaign bucks. Senator Barack Obama, number two on the Fannie/Freddie list of favored politicians after just four short years in the senate. Next time you see that ad, you might notice he fails to mention that part of the Fannie and Freddie problem. Heather.
NAUERT: Wow, that%u2019s quite a report, begs the question %u2014 where is John McCain on this?
GIBSON: John McCain is a measly $20,000 after over 20 years so he really doesn%u2019t even come close in the political contribution department.
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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
Lehman Brothers%u2019 collapse is traced back to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two big mortgage banks that got a federal bailout a few weeks ago. Freddie and Fannie used huge lobbying budgets and political contributions to keep regulators off their backs. A group called the center for responsive politics keeps track of which politicians get Fannie and Freddie political contributions. The top three U.S. Senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were democrats and number two is Senator Barack Obama.
Now, remember, he has only been in the Senate four years but still managed to grab the number two spot ahead of John Kerry, decades in the senate, and Chris Dodd who is chairman of the senate banking committee. Fannie and Freddie have been creations of the congressional democrats and the Clinton white house, designed to make mortgages available to more people, and as it turned out, some people who couldn%u2019t afford them. Fannie and Freddie have also been places for big Washington democrats to go to work in the semi-private sector and pocket millions. The Clinton administration%u2019s white house budget director Franklin Raines ran Fannie and collected 50 million dollars. Jamie Gurilli, Clinton Justice Apartment Official, worked for Fannie and took home 26 million dollars. Big Democrat Jim Johnson, recently on Obama%u2019s VP search committee has hauled in millions from his Fannie Mae C.E.O. job.
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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
Lehman Brothers%u2019 collapse is traced back to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two big mortgage banks that got a federal bailout a few weeks ago. Freddie and Fannie used huge lobbying budgets and political contributions to keep regulators off their backs. A group called the center for responsive politics keeps track of which politicians get Fannie and Freddie political contributions. The top three U.S. Senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were democrats and number two is Senator Barack Obama.
Now, remember, he has only been in the Senate four years but still managed to grab the number two spot ahead of John Kerry, decades in the senate, and Chris Dodd who is chairman of the senate banking committee. Fannie and Freddie have been creations of the congressional democrats and the Clinton white house, designed to make mortgages available to more people, and as it turned out, some people who couldn%u2019t afford them. Fannie and Freddie have also been places for big Washington democrats to go to work in the semi-private sector and pocket millions. The Clinton administration%u2019s white house budget director Franklin Raines ran Fannie and collected 50 million dollars. Jamie Gurilli, Clinton Justice Apartment Official, worked for Fannie and took home 26 million dollars. Big Democrat Jim Johnson, recently on Obama%u2019s VP search committee has hauled in millions from his Fannie Mae C.E.O. job.
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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
Continued....

McCain''s bill never made it out of committee. Chris Dodd, then the ranking member of the Banking Committee and now its chair, was in the middle of receiving preferential loan treatment from Countrywide Mortgage, one of the companies gaming the system in the credit crisis. Meanwhile, Barack Obama took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the lobbyists McCain mentions in this speech, making him the #2 recipient of Fannie/Freddie money:

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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
McCain%u2019s attempt to fix Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac in 2005; Update: Obama can%u2019t get AIG rightposted at 11:45 am on September 17, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

With the financial sector in turmoil today, the media and the politicians have started throwing around blame with the same recklessness as lenders threw around credit to create the problem. Politically, the pertinent question is this: Which candidate foresaw the credit crisis and tried to do something about it? As it turns out, John McCain did %u2014 and partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government%u2019s involvement in lending three years ago, after an attempt by the Bush administration died in Congress two years earlier. McCain spoke forcefully on May 25, 2006, on behalf of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005.

Seems like even BUSH tried to correct Clinton''s little debacle, also, didn''t it?

Seems like Barak Obama was a senator in May of 2006, also, AND DIDN''T HAVE A FREAKING CLUE!!!!!! Or was that after his 143 days and he was BUSY campaigning!
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by stn_sage September 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
Posted by StormeyOne at 06:10 PM : Sep 22, 2008
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WRONG, Clinton didn''t start it! Reagan & Bush,sr. DID, the GOP grabbed control of Congress in the mid-90s, came up with bills to further de-regulate Wall St., and had sufficient strength to pass it over Clinton''s head, h3ll he just ''went along'' with it! The same way this gutless Dem Congress just ''goes along'' with Bush!

King Bush exacerbated the problem during his administration, with NO serious oversight and a look-the-other-way, hands'' off concern! Remember
Enron among other things!

Yeah, there are no-good Dems like Kerry and Pelosi that are acting to save their own investments, but as despicable as that is, they aren''t the ones who set the whole thing up, or are responsible for that.

Their fault is they have never made a reasonable effort to control Bush or the GOP while they were setting it up and making it worse! That''s their fault!

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by amercanbiker September 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT



Bunnies are so soft ad cute!

I love them!



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by pr_boxer September 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
I believe I''ve read more lies here today than I''ve read since the last time GW Bush had a news conference!
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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
Stormey you really need to a HS degree... you seem to not realize that when McCain made noice in the Senate about Frannie and Freddie back in 2005 - both houses - Congress & Senate were controlled by the Republicans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND BUSH WAS AND STILL IS PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!! Please go back to your TX trailer and smoke your meth!!!!



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Posted by Mel130ny at 06:18 PM : Sep 22, 2008

I suggest you put the crack bong down madame!
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by pr_boxer September 22, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
quote =Stormyone PRIMARY INVESTMENT HOLDERS IN THOSE COMPANIES, THE TOP TWO OF WHICH ARE NANCY PELOSI AND JOHN KERRY!

Now c''mon story, thats BS and we all know it, sorry bub, it won''t fly!
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by bellona2 September 22, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
Muslims (16% of the world) do not kill as many babies as Christians (25% of the world) do by abortion.
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by stormeyone September 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
Stormy; You need to get a man or a woman, whatever your case may be. Never have encountered a woman with such a foul disposition.


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Posted by BajaJohn1 at 06:15 PM : Sep 22, 2008

Thanks, but I have one already, Pastor Ray is sitting right across from me putting his sermont together for Sunday!

But thanks for thinking of me.

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by pastdue1 September 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
What should be discussed on this forum is why todd palin has become an issue in this campaign. It probably has something to do with the fact that he has been allowed by the governor of Alaska to set policy and enforce that policy. Maybe if we could see the palin''s tax returns maybe we could see how much influence he has had. Nevertheless, now that governor wants to become vp of the United States and weild power over a nation, not the 600,000 or so citizens of Alaska. We have to be concerned that with his background , experience, education and personality and his wife, he could further his influence. Although, he is , indeed, a ruggedly handsome, "first dude" , the thought of this person having any power in any place other than Alaska, is extremely scary.
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