Comments on: Jesse Jackson Renews Some Blacks' Concerns

Washington Post: Some Activists Have Been Unhappy About Critiques Of Problems In The Black Community

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by face_it July 12, 2008 6:40 AM EDT
I have been listening to both MCCain and Obama''s speeches all day everyday on POTUS08 and have grown more and more concerned about Obama''s lack of an assuring declaration. He continues to use phrases such as: "I would like to" and "I want to" leading me to interpret a lack of confidence in his ideas and plans. When has he said "I will do"? Idealist dreamers are not what this country needs. We need a leader who "WILL DO" what his platform says as well as a leader who "WILL NOT DO" what his platform is against. I am not about to say that McCain is this person but I will fully support the notion that Obama is not that person.

We are in dire need of a leader who can be and accepts being held accountable for all of his or her posturing. As well as an irrevocable law that if all of their assurances and guarantees are not achieved a national apology and resignaion will follow.

Let us all take back our country for the glory of our fore fathers.
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by patriot12436 July 12, 2008 3:01 AM EDT
rdp
I didn''t say i supported McCain either but if it is a choice between him and obama i will take McCain. I do not trust obama because of many things said and unanswered, and because of those he has had long associations with.
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by patriot12436 July 12, 2008 2:43 AM EDT
charlezwaslh
I have supported equal rights all my life. Now i am tired of the black race just taking and expecting the white race to support them. I am tired of them saying it is ok to commit crimes because of how they were mistreated or denied an education. We have addressed and paid for these issues. Now i am for segregation and racism. Tjhe blacks do not want to unite as one so let the war begin.
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by kailumego1 July 12, 2008 2:43 AM EDT
There are a lot of absentee black fathers, now does that mean white fathers don''t abandon their children, no, but if you examine the statistics, African American women far exceed their white counterparts in the single-mother category.

Egoistic Judases like Jackson, Sharpton, Dyson, and others have done absolutely nothing to remedy the decades-long endemic, but to foam at their mouthes whenever someone is courageous enough to speak up.
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by kailumego1 July 12, 2008 2:37 AM EDT
So-called black leaders like Jackson, Sharpton,, Dyson, etc. are nothing more than sycophant parasites leeching off the integrity, self-determinism, and industriousness of those courageous enough to speak the truth on delicate issues, which they''ve obviously ignored for decades.

I''m sick and tired of so-called representatives of the black community defending and justifying the degradation [absentee fathers, lack of responsibility, personal growth, and self-determinism, etc.] that is endemic within the black community/family.

Notwithstanding the "Civil Rights Movement", marches, protests,etc., in spite all the sacrifices made by countless numbers of people, black folks as a whole are no better off than they were during slavery.

Only this time, it isn''t racism that''s holding back the black race but blacks themselves, certainly racism still exist in American society, however, it doesn''t apply to all circumstances.

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by patriot12436 July 12, 2008 2:30 AM EDT
rdp
I am not voting for obama as i do not trust him and what he says. I don''t care about his being black. If Colin Powell had run he would have had my vote.
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by daggett yooper July 12, 2008 2:08 AM EDT
so, it appears that Barack is only concerned for the black people in america. It is not the presidents job to suggest that fathers be more involved in their families. to be responsible.

It is the presidents job for which we hire him, to run our country, not our lives.

I would like to know how Barack plans to do this?

What are his plans for the petroleum industry? How will he interact with the oil cartel? How will he make life better for ALL americans. not just the blacks. These are the things we should be concerned about.

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by cmp271 July 12, 2008 1:50 AM EDT
Keep in mind if Obama got in, which he won''t, we would have to deal with worse black attitude of entitlement, moreso than we do now!! White Democrats will vote against him simply because he will stir up alot of black racism that is already at record level against whites.

If he can get as far as he can, what is the excuse other blacks are using for not? Nothing was handed to him the way the black attitude feels it should be. Jackson and Sharpton are the past, whites are smarter now and tired of the same old white guilt trip!

The Government is not accountable nor responsible for the laziness of blacks. That is an inbred genetic problem.

If Obama got in, we would never be able to get rid of Sharpton and Jackson and their circus of other performers.

Vote for McCain...
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by karencwallac July 12, 2008 1:09 AM EDT
Many of the comments on this post demonstate the dangers of Obama''s perpetuation of stereotypes of African Americans. Many here believe them and apply them to the entire AA race. Obama reinforces these horrible lies.
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by pjones501 July 12, 2008 1:07 AM EDT
Better find a new candidate while you still can Democrats. Anybody want to make a little bet about how many more times Obama sticks his foot in his mouth before the Convention??? (just kidding...about the betting part)

That reminds me, the press missed the one yesterday about Obama saying that kids should learn to speak Spanish and that he''s ashamed that most American''s can only speak one language? There they go with that being ashamed of America again. Too bad he wasn''t ashamed when his minister shouted, "GOD DAAAAAAM AMERICA",
......Oh yeh, and the issue of Obama''s patriotism.....look for it to come back, big time.
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by karencwallac July 12, 2008 1:03 AM EDT
Obama speaks down to AAs as well as perpetrates and reinforces false stereotypes about them. There are far too many examples.(http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/07/why_jesses_testy_obamas_tough.html )
During this campaign I''ve closely followed and read many of the blogs. Posters%u2019 comments and media reaction confirm that racism is alive and that whites believe the many false stereotypes that have been applied to the entire AA race. AAs have heard these stereotypes so often that many believe these myths which have become their reality. AAs don''t have jobs, etc. largely due to institutionalized racism and their stereotypic portrayal makes it easy to place the blame on them in order to justify their condition and alleviate guilt. Obama takes the AA vote for granted and to gain white conservative votes he often criticizes AAs (for the world to hear), which I find morally reprehensible. He stereotypes an entire race for political onvenience. He also knows that the symbolism he represents to the AA community causes AAs not to complain or demand and that he will not lose AA support although he continuously insults them. He would not dare pronounce such harsh judgments against other demographics. If he promoted stereotypes regarding Jews, women, whites, ***, etc. he would be crucified(metaphorically speaking). Jackson is being vilified for uttering the truth!
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by tibu987 July 11, 2008 11:34 PM EDT
There is another major difference between Obama and Jackson, Sharpton, and Walters.
Obama is intelligent and the others are not.
Simple as that.
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by tibu987 July 11, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
Wow! Obama speaks the truth to Blacks and the panderers jump on him.
Same thing happened to Bill Cosby.
Apparently many Blacks do not want to hear the truth and prefer the double-speak of Jackson and Sharpton who are only looking out for themselves.
And so it goes.
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by kansas1946 July 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT
Walters said that "we''''re not electing him to be preacher in chief," and that Obama needs to give more speeches about how he would help black communities.

Translation: The black community doesn''''t want advice from their leaders. They just want to know how much free money Obama''''s going to give them.

Do I understand you right, Mr Walters?



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Posted by CiitzenUSA at 05:32 PM : Jul 11, 2008
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I think you got it right. Obama is showing black Americans something different. That is is possible for ANYONE to achieve in this country, and it is possible for ANYONE to be president. That is a new message and one that cuts into Mr. Jesse''s power base and he don''t like it.
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by kansas1946 July 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
The larger point of Jesse L. Jackson''s criticism of Barack Obama -- if not the crude way he expressed it -- touched a nerve among some African American political activists who have been unhappy about the senator ''s pointed critiques of absentee fathers and other problems in the black community.

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If these black "activists" are really critical of a person pointing out some obvious issues in urban black communities, then they are not truly tring to improve the lives of their constituants. They are hurting them. If they don''t like Obama and his message of personal responsibility where possible, then they just need to support McCain. Jesse Jackson is part of the problem, not part of the solutition.
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by ciitzenusa July 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
Walters said that "we''re not electing him to be preacher in chief," and that Obama needs to give more speeches about how he would help black communities.

Translation: The black community doesn''t want advice from their leaders. They just want to know how much free money Obama''s going to give them.

Do I understand you right, Mr Walters?
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by ciitzenusa July 11, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
"...touched a nerve among some African American political activists who have been unhappy about the senator ''s pointed critiques of absentee fathers and other problems in the black community."
Ya GOT to be kidding, right???
Gee, maybe if we didnt have like 60% of black kids growing up without fathers around then Obama wouldn''t have to make critical speeches.
When black people start taking responsibility for making babies and their parenting skills, the rest of us will have a lot less to criticize. Until then, if the shoe fits, wear it.
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by aldon61 July 11, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
Jackson is no longer politically relevant. Obama doesn''t really "need" his endorsement and should just ignore this fool.
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by minuteman-1 July 11, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
Jesse Jacknife renews some black''s concerns

How about all of America''s concerns about the Obamination
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by medmom04 July 11, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
---"For the sake of education and true enlightenment, an interesting study in human behavior would be in the making if Barack gave that SAME speech on absent parents to a white audience....."---
Posted by noprejudice

hmmmm fascinating. would white reverends come out, state Barack is not addressing ALL the issues in this one speech that relates to white folks, threaten Barack physically as Jesse did, & miss the entire fact in their indignant verbal uprising that white fathers are also absentee tooo much??? Take one large county, where the welfare load is over one million families strong. Any welfare case opened for a single parent family results in a case opening against the absent parent to repay the welfare system for taking care of the absent parent''s children, as the absent parent clearly is not doing. So one million cases strong, urban county, do you think African American fathers are the majority of absent parents? the answer is no. it is not a race-specific lack-of-accountability.
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