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Washington Post: Adviser's Comment Saying Attack Before The Election Would Help McCain May Have Struck A Nerve With Dems

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by rowdywicca June 25, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
If Kerry has the same analysis as Black, and apparently offers it publicly, then what%u2019s the big deal? Let%u2019s take a look at Black%u2019s comments in their full context, courtesy of Dafydd at Big Lizards (emphases his):
Not America%u2019s dependence on foreign oil? Not climate change? Not the crushing cost of health care? Eventually McCain gets around to mentioning all three of those. But he starts by deftly turning the economy into a national security issue - and why not? On national security McCain wins. We saw how that might play out early in the campaign, when one good scare, one timely reminder of the chaos lurking in the world, probably saved McCain in New Hampshire, a state he had to win to save his candidacy - this according to McCain%u2019s chief strategist, Charlie Black. The assassination of Benazir Bhutto in December was an %u201Cunfortunate event,%u201D says Black. %u201CBut his knowledge and ability to talk about it reemphasized that this is the guy who%u2019s ready to be Commander-in-Chief. And it helped us.%u201D As would, Black concedes with startling candor after we raise the issue, another terrorist attack on U.S. soil. %u201CCertainly it would be a big advantage to him,%u201D says Black.

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by rowdywicca June 25, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
Was Black right, and does that matter?

The off-hand analysis of Charlie Black on the political effect of a terrorist attack continues to reverberate, but the Washington Post wonders if Black wasn%u2019t right. The Obama campaign certainly acts as though he was, with their high-profile efforts to counter Black%u2019s remarks in Fortune, which seem almost %u2014 almost %u2013 innocuous in context. Just a hint of bin Laden in 2004 cost John Kerry the election %u2026 according to John Kerry:
Sen. Barack Obama and his surrogates continued to criticize Charles R. Black Jr., a top adviser to Sen. John McCain, on Tuesday for saying a terrorist attack before the November election would help the presumptive Republican nominee. But behind their protests lay a question that has dogged Democrats since Sept. 11, 2001: Was Black speaking the truth? %u2026
To this day, Kerry (D-Mass.) has blamed an Osama bin Laden videotape released on Oct. 29, 2004, for his defeat in the election the following week. And McCain, while campaigning in Connecticut for Rep. Christopher Shays that week in 2004, described the bin Laden video as a boost for Bush. %u201CI think it%u2019s very helpful to President Bush,%u201D McCain said at the time. %u201CIt focuses America%u2019s attention on the war on terrorism. I%u2019m not sure if it was intentional or not, but I think it does have an effect.%u201D

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by rowdywicca June 25, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
RowdyWicca,,, He has ?? I must have missed it.. Got a link by chance. I thought I was paying attention to the news.


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Posted by j-whitman at 03:42 PM : Jun 25, 2008

Dipwad, didn''t you read the article? Black hasn''t been allowed on the plane since the made the statements! What else do you want McCain to do? Shoot him?
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by dmgenet June 25, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
"Or if you hang out with a convicted felon, or make a white hater and anti USA radical preacher your mentor?
Posted by guysdigdirt at 05:37 PM : Jun 25, 2008"

Did he hire them and publicly agree with them? Interestingly, One of the most admired Presidents, that even Bush attempted to compare himself to, Harry S.Truman, came from a very politically corrupt organization. Nothing was ever pinned on Truman, yet, he made his name in Congress rooting out corruption within the armed forces contractors. He did it so well that it was one reason Roosevelt picked him as VP. Prior to that no one liked him nor paid any attention to him.

AND I don''t remember any lingering criticism toward Bush by any civic or religiousleaders when right wing zealots loudly proclaimed that 9/11 was pay back for US immorality (***, Jews, etc.) And that is putting it mildly in comparison to their version.
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by rwassel June 25, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
Where''d ya go, obama8years? Too much of a pansy to respond? Yeah - that''s what I thought. Class dismissed.

obama8years -

Wow - way to find all those statistics on people dying. Did you miss the one about 30,000 children dying EVERYDAY (yes, everyday, not week, month or year) from famine and preventable diseases? Yeah - what have your beloved Republicans done to help with that? Oh yeah, flushed almost 1 TRILLION DOLLARS down the Iraq toilet that could have been used to spare the lives of 30,000 children EVERY DAY.

Nice try. But you keep fighting that "war on terror", and drinking that Kool-Aid.
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by inventagod2 June 25, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
''From the 9/11 Commission:

Further investigation has revealed that the trading had no connection with 9/11. A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Queda purchased 95% of the UAL puts on 9/6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on 9/10.''

Beautiful whitewash of the facts from the commission.
What they do not tell you was the Krongard brothers were up to their eyeballs in CIA/Put Options/A.B. Brown/Blackwater/9-11. Google ''Krongard Brothers'' and do a little reading on your own. You might be amazed...

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by guysdigdirt June 25, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
If you hire the devil what kind of work you think you are going to get out of him?
Posted by dmgenet

Or if you hang out with a convicted felon, or make a white hater and anti USA radical preacher your mentor?
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by dmgenet June 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
Wasn''t Black the operative that did a lot of dirty tricks, especially Swiftboating McCain and Kerry? So why does McCain hire the dirty boy if he wants to run a clean campaign? This is why I drifted away from McCain. He is showing poor judgment in several areas that have me concerned. If you hire the devil what kind of work you think you are going to get out of him?
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by hungry1968 June 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
Those are not mainstream media outlets. It sounds like you want to trample on the 1st Amendment -- isn''''t that what the left keeps accusing Bush of doing?

Do you also want all the left leaning (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc.) outlets censored as well?

Posted by Xyno at 05:06 PM : Jun 25, 2008





Hilarious!!!

They report the truth, which OF COURSE paints Bush in a negative light, therefore they are "left leaning"?!?!


How absurd!!!

Thanks for the laugh though!!
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by whitemale08 June 25, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
I''m glad the fairness doctrine wil protect us from Republican kool-aide drinkers who form their opinion based on what junkyard dogs like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh keep spewing out to the public.

Finally the "Fairness Doctrine" will protect America from Hannitizing the public of failed Reagan ideas and expose dangerous and ridiculous idealogy from so called "Advance Conservatism" from Rush.

It''s morning again America!!!
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by noloyalisti June 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
Xyno is drinkin'' the right wing Kool Aid again. All the mainstream media outlets like ABC, CBS, MSNBC and especially Faux News are owned by the same corporations who are profiting from killing Iraqis and Americans. That is one reason they all were cheerleading for the invasion and occupation. They are the same ones giving money to the Grand Oil Party and their war mongers like McSame.
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by feelfree4u June 25, 2008 8:17 PM EDT

Related-

"Former Senator Mike Gravel Calls for Independent 9/11 Investigation and Prosecution of President Bush and Vice President Cheney"

www.democracynow.org/2008/6/17/former_senator_mike_gravel_calls_for
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by xyno-2009 June 25, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
LOL -- I need to buy some call options on aluminum foil. That''s what you use for those hats, right?
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by tawpdawg11 June 25, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
Why were there HUGE increases in PUT OPTION VOLUME on airline stocks in the days just before 9/11?

Posted by TawpDawg11 at 04:46 PM : Jun 25, 2008

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From the 9/11 Commission:

Further investigation has revealed that the trading had no connection with 9/11. A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Queda purchased 95% of the UAL puts on 9/6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on 9/10.

Posted by Xyno at 05:02 PM : Jun 25, 2008

Whew! I feel better about this whole conspiracy thing already,except..............what about the dramatic increases in PUT OPTION VOLUME on ALL the various airlines.

And then those secondary explosions as the tower came down.......sounded like THE FLAMINGO demolition in Vegas.

And building 7 implodes hours later.

And the tower doesn''t TOPPLE.......it lands in a perfect pile. But what do I know.

And all those beams looking so PERFECTLY CUT in the photos rather than mangled . Well I''m sure I''m just paranoid in light of all the Bush admin has put America thru since.

But if you''d be so kind as to enlighhten me some more I''d really appreciate it. TIA! : )
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by xyno-2009 June 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
Posted by hungry1968 at 04:51 PM : Jun 25, 2008

Those are not mainstream media outlets. It sounds like you want to trample on the 1st Amendment -- isn''t that what the left keeps accusing Bush of doing?

Do you also want all the left leaning (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc.) outlets censored as well?
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by stevex47 June 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
Now I dont want to add to the 9-11 conspiracy theory. But one fact is very spooky. MARVIN BUSH, W''s brother was head of security at the WTC and building 7 until THE DAY BEFORE 9-11 !!!!!!!!

How wierd is that?
(building 7 was blocks away that also went down, very mysteriously)
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by xyno-2009 June 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
Why were there HUGE increases in PUT OPTION VOLUME on airline stocks in the days just before 9/11?

Posted by TawpDawg11 at 04:46 PM : Jun 25, 2008

============================

From the 9/11 Commission:

Further investigation has revealed that the trading had no connection with 9/11. A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Queda purchased 95% of the UAL puts on 9/6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on 9/10.
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by stevex47 June 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
I wonder if that is what that ricin thing was shortly after 9-11? Somebody trying to make it look like we were under attack?
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by jn122736 June 25, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
Watch out for a ''''collateral damage'''' event, curtesy of shrubie and company if mac starting getting to far behind in the polls.
These wankers will do anything to keep one of their own in power.
Posted by lvdragonlady at 04:34 PM : Jun 25, 2008
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vdragonlady;

It is possible that they have far more incentive now than they did in 2004.

If a republican, or at least a Bush sympathizer, isn%u2019t elected this year, there just might be some actual investigations into what really happened in 2001, why we abandoned the pursuit of Bin Laden/AL Qaeda to invade Iraq, and the profiteering from the Iraq fiasco over the past 5 years.

Remember, the administrative branch of government controls what is and what is not allowed to be investigated.
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by hungry1968 June 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
You''''re kidding, right? The only right wing media outlet is Fox News -- the rest are leaning very far to the left.

Posted by Xyno at 04:45 PM : Jun 25, 2008





The Weekly Standard, Newsmax, National Review Online, the Drudge Report, Washington Times.....


Those are just off the top of my head, and they don''t take into account Limbaugh, Gibson, or O"reilly''s radio shows, or terrorist outlets like the American Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, etc, etc.
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