Comments on: Obama's Unlikely Anti-Abortion Supporters

Washington Post: Anti-Abortion Lawmakers' Backing May Help in Pennsylvania, Indiana

[gaye5]

Then in this program of abstinence there''s something called, Becoming a Responsible Teen, Be Proud!, Be Responsible and Focus on Kids, encourage teens to imagine ways to "eroticize condom use with (their) partner" (page 78-79) and assign teens to create a list of ways to be close to a person without having intercourse, including, "body massage, bathing together, masturbation, sensuous feeding, fantasizing, watching erotic movies, reading erotic books and magazines (page 137)." In contrast, Game Plan (page 10 and 35) and Navigator (page 29) define abstinence as avoiding "any type of genital contact or sexual stimulation including, but not limited to, sexual intercourse."

What we need to do is tell teens that teens that are sexually active are about three times more likely to be depressed than those who are not., They are three to five times more likely to attempt suicide. And early teen sexual activity is related to health problems and sexually transmitted diseases. But more than that, early teenage sexual activity sets up a pattern of casual *** and promiscuity that can last a lifetime. This is what we need to tell teens, and we''re not telling them. The same as we are not telling people that the bedfellow of homosexuality is disease and the horrific things that they do to get these diseases and that their life span is less than hetrosexuals.

Parents dont want explicit programs, such as those that teach children as young as five about masturbation.

[beader59]

Great now Obama is letting anti-woman''s rights to back him. First a racist, now this. What next?????

[gypsy0126]

I forgot to mention....Obama has voted FOR partial birth abortions..... look up his voting record. Afterall he did say he would not want his children "punished" with a baby.

[gypsy0126]

If you are just now reading that Senator McCain prefers to run against Clinton, then you are really behind. McCain prefers to run against her because she is his equal. He reported almost two years ago, his problems with the great uniter Obama. McCain said his view of Obama was that he comes in with a halo on his head, and that he believes he was put here for a greater purpose, in other words....he thinks he is a Messiah. McCain and Hillary Clinton are good friends. They differ on political issues but travel all over the world together representating their seats on the Senator Armed Services Committee.

[gaye5]

Please help me here I am from Asutralia but I have read that the American abstinence education, in fact promote *** for children..
Doesnt these comprehensive %u2018sex ed%u2019 programs have more to do with teaching sexual technique than abstinence. Some of the lesson plans actually give detailed information on how to use condoms or participate in so-called "condom races."

Don''t these curricula typically have middle school children practice unrolling condoms on *** or cucumbers. They have kids go out and practice buying condoms in stores around the neighborhood. They have homosexual role playing. They teach kids to hide condoms on their bodies so their partners can feel them and find the condom. It is material virtually that no parent in the United States would want to have their children exposed to.
Isnt abstinence a deceptive choice of wording??. It appears to me that many of these programs are quietly passing parental muster because they sound safe and unassuming with names like "abstinence based" or "abstinence plus." yet in fact they are teaching children to have *** and with this type of teaching armed with their unbridled hormones they will.

[parrot123-2009]

The reference point for us in understanding what 6 days is relates to the earth revolving around the sun.
The earth wasn''''t revolving around the sun before and while it was being created. Certainly a different measure of time was at work and we have no way of determining the length of a "God Day".
Posted by realpatriot1 at 12:49 PM : Apr 14, 2008

You sound like a politician ..... and seem very smart too. Cheers!

[realpatriot1]

Libra127,

Maybe Obama did him and haw because he''s a politician who doesn''t want to have any more of his words dissected and made into headlines.

On the other hand, I would have difficulty answeriing that question myself and I don''t accept that your 2 alternatives are the only ones.

I believe in an omnicient creator as generally described in the Bible but I don''t think the 6 days
referred to is necessarily comparable to what 6 days mean to us.

The reference point for us in understanding what 6 days is relates to the earth revolving around the sun.
The earth wasn''t revolving around the sun before and while it was being created. Certainly a different measure of time was at work and we have no way of determining the length of a "God Day".

[creeper00]

" i cannot have my tax $$$$$ going toward WELFARE ABORTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Posted by bdrlnt4rl at 10:35 AM : Apr 14, 2008

Ummm...so you''d rather have your tax $$$$$ going toward WELFARE BABIES instead?

The average cost of a first-trimester abortion is $468.
Link: http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/cost.html

The average welfare payment for one child over the course of eighteen years is $62,992.
Link here: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/cfc_fy96.htm

I am sick to death of paying child support for someone else''s children. I will happily pony up $468 to ensure that a child does not tap into my checkbook till he or she reaches adulthood.

I''ve never before told someone on here that they are stupid. I''ll make an exception in your case.

[realpatriot1]

As soon as I released the publish button I wanted to take back the dig at McCain. It was partly but not entirely true.

I do give him credit for working to eliminate earmarks and to reform campaign finance. I was thinking more about Iraq, tax cuts for the rich vs. tax cuts for the middle class, and the government playing a role in stimulating the economy.

Those are the issues people should be debating rather than the character assassination stuff.

McCain''s character isn''t perfect but he''s generally honorable and I think the same is true of Obama.

[realpatriot1]

Jack3213,

I don''t expect any politician to deliver on all of their promises and I have no illusions about Obama being able to accomplish everything he wants to.

At the same time, common sense tells me that a politician who sincerely trys to make change will accomplish more, even with some failures, as one who doesn''t even try to change anything for the better.

That would be John McCain.