Comments on: White Men Emerge As Dems' Key Swing Vote

Washington Post: Questions Remain Over Obama's Ability To Appeal To Critical Demographic

[dandlwar]

yes

[rudy654-2009]

Posted by rp44_63 at 03:45 PM

Yeah, and if I don''t accept your god, your Jesus, what will happen to me when I die?

[rudy654-2009]

Posted by rp44_63 at 04:04 PM

Yet your churches all teach how wonderful they are and how everyone else is going to hell. Right. All love. Baloney!

[tomanyt]

tmittelstaed...What?????

[tmittelstaed]

I think it''s clear most people still don''t get it. Wright, as a pastor, has been trained in putting himself in other people''s shoes and building understanding by seeing their point of view. For example, take 911. Write''s sound bite is that America simply reaped what it sew. Obama''s sound bite says 911 is inexcusable. The problem here is that from a US citizen''s point of view, 911 is inexcusable while what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is inevitable, while from a Muslim''s point of view, what Israel is currently doing to the Palestinians is inexcusable and 911 was inevitable. Until both the US Citizen and the Muslim can understand each other''s point of view, there will be no peace with either Palestine or 911.
Obama''s attempt to build understanding is to affirm what the US citizen already believes, then I guess to try to get the Muslim to see the US Citizen''s point of view. Write''s attempt to build understanding is to affirm the Muslim''s point of view and try to get the US Citizen to see the Muslim''s point of view. In short, each of them are doing the same thing, they are just coming at it from opposite ends.

[jolievie]

When you are black, everything you say about other race is ok. When you are white, everything you say about other race is RACISM. DOUBLE STANDARD ISN''T IT?

[tomanyt]

Wright left for Africa with his family last week and declined to comment....I hope he stays there. Its his homeland after all.

[tomanyt]

missglo...Nobody is saying this racist pastor doesn''t have a right to state his opinion. The problem is a presidential candidate who claims he never heard such remarks on one day and then the next day claims he disagrees with the remarks he said he never heard.

[missglo]

Judge and ye may be Judged. Some folks need to remember this verse. Not what you, want it to say. It is what it is. What his former Pastor said, was His opinion. Just as people that are commenting on this site. It was his right.

[tomanyt]

But of course the congregation defends the Pastor, because they are all racists.

[stn_sage]

deemsnyd - if you replace, ''Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we''''ve seen:, with
''Failure of the Bush administration to enact proper economic policy:'' your writing, index-form post, will more accurately reflect reality!

[stn_sage]

kennedy7955 - You raise a key point! Does he use his pulpit each Sunday---for 20 years---to preach like this? And how many times has Mr.Obama sat by, heard it, and said nothing to him?! If he does, and Mr. Obama never said anything to him, at any time, clearly he was wrong not to do so!

Another point, should we hold bad behavior of campaign workers and surrogates against the candidate they support?! If so, then we have a tremendous problem, folks! Because Obama, Clinton, AND McCain will all be disqualified by that standard!

In the end, we all have to decide for ourselves!

[deemsnyd]

You wont hear much of this in the NY Times or NBC.

A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we''ve
seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) the cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3 a
gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in
equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);

5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2
trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.


America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

[kennedy7955]

I have serious problems with a Presidential candidate sitting through 20 years of sermons like those given by this Pastor. I have switched from Obama to Hillary...

[padams1010]

What this "pastor" AND all "blacks" in America NEED to do is take a GOOD LONG LOOK at their ancestor%u2019s homeland today. THEN get on their knees and thank the good Lord their ancestors WERE capture and brought to America as slaves. IF they hadn''t been, the "blacks" of today might still be living in huts and trying to escape the genocide going on in many African nations. But no, you won''t find ONE of these "blacks", not this "pastor" or any other "black" of media standing having one word to say about the difficult situations in Africa. All THEY talk about is how bad it is America. Give me a break. I have many successful black friends. They got ahead by working hard and taking advantage of every opportunity available to every American. They didn''t use their blackness or the race card to get ahead. They didn%u2019t dwell on the slavery of the past. They always looked to the available prosperity that can be had in the future. They are proud of their successes and I''m proud of them and am honored to call them friends. But there are "blacks" like this "pastor" who thinks the only way to get ahead is to convince their people they are still victims and it''s okay to rant and rave against their lives. Make them believe they can''t get ahead AND it''s whitey''s fault. These are the "blacks" the media likes; they sell news! Want to bet this "pastor" lives better then his parishioners? Wonder if he could do the same thing in any of his ancestor''s homeland?

[stn_sage]

The public is responding emotionally to that very emotional speech of the pastor!
First, look at content, was the U.S. involved in unwise wars? True. Is the rest of the world somewhat against us now for some of the things we''ve done internationally? True.
Second, I''ve heard almost every adult I''ve interacted with on a regular basis use a swear word,AND/or directed it at a politician,etc.? C''mon, most of you guys reading this post now have, too! ''Fess up!
Third, The guy is ''venting''! Who HASN''T done that?!
Notice-he''s not calling for an armed take over of govt, or murder of someone, or anything like that!
So, why all the self-righteous indignation?! C''MON!

I don''t defend what he did---at the least, it was extremely tacky/unwise; at the most, it might seriously hurt Obama''s campaign---but, I''m trying to understand it, and put it in its'' proper perspective and not blow it out of proportion! I ask that everyone else TRY to do the same!

By the way, I''M NOT an Obama supporter. I don''t like any of the candidates.

[noloyalisti]

Why do we always blame the messenger? The Reverend was correct (I almost said right) in so many ways. Look at the population of the prisons and the average working wage of people of color in this country vs. whites. I mean we didn''t even pass laws for equal civil rights until the 1960''s.

It reminds me of how they demonized Ward Churchill when he wrote "On the Justice of Roosting Chickens" in 2004. He correctly argued that the WTC was a target because of its role in imperialistic world exploitation. By working for those corporations, their workers also became targets.

[far_point200]

After reviewing Rev. Jeremiah Wright sermon videos, I am totally appauled at what is being preached in black churches. It is utterly disgusting Obama has even been associated with Wright.

I have never seen anything like that in any white church I''ve ever attended. No wonder race relations are still so poor here in the US.

With people like this Rev. Jeremiah Wright around stirring up hate, racism will only flourish.

[phillysage]

Both Obama and Hillary should give up their campaigns for President for the good of the Democratic Party and of the nation

[phillysage]

Both Obama and Hillary should give up their campaigns for President for the good of the Democratic Party and of the nation