Comments on: Clinton, Obama Take Aim At Pennsylvania

Washington Post: But Obama Team Tries To Lower Expectations Due To Clinton's Perceived Strengths

[Stratmaster7]

Whitepicks, I see a lot more slurs and mischaracterizations against Clinton than I do Obama. Of course there are hacks and idiots all over the boards; so don;t add to it with your own comments. Stay above the fray.

Most of the anti-Obama comments I see (not all, but most) are actually questioning his credentials or policies; as compared to comments about Clinton''s family, rude name-calling and no mention of anything of substance from Obama supporters.

I addressed 5 specific Obama camp claims against Clinton about 5 posts below your last one. Now, that is my take on the facts. I don''t claim to be all knowing, but you won''t see me calling anyone an idiot or fool, or calling Obama names (other than his first or last name).

Maybe if his supporters, including a top advisor who just had to resign, did not seem so childish the rest of us would have an easier time jumping on board the hope train.

[popstom1]

They have too run Fl.and MI. again so she has a chance

[whitepicks2]

Where''s yours? Your issue? I''ll delve into any issue. In case you haven''t noticed, for every person who tries to discuss issues there''s 50 hacks posing as someone''s supporter - in which they are not - posting slurs and hate-filled mischaracterizations of both Democratic candidates. But give it your best shot, hoss.

[Stratmaster7]

so White, you resort to calling people fools, and bragging as if this is a game of kickball on the schoolyard, but never addressing a single real issue. This is the Obama camp in a nutshell.

[whitepicks2]

The Clinton wannabe surrogates ought to know there''s no doubt Obama will be the nominee because he will have the most delegates, and the superdelegates absolutely never will overturn the will of the people. Any illusion any of you may have about her winning is because you are gullable enough to believe her campaign of lies. Any Dem voting for Clinton, or tearing-down Obama, mischaracterizing his religion, policies, and otherwise being hateful is either a fool for attacking the nominee - or a filthy Republican, or both.

[besscannon-2009]

I just come from YouTube. I checked Obama and Clinton videos. Google should be banned for allowing such sick, filthy trash to be posted. If this is indictive of the thinking of the generation supporting Obama, God help our country if he is elected!!! The filth on both sites is sickening and vicious. Doesn''t anyone monitor that medium?? You have to watch the videos to feel the depth of fright I feel for our country if we are stooped to having these elements running our country. I think we are headed for RUIN!!!!!

[Stratmaster7]

Why all the lies and hate from the Obama supporters who preach hope?

They claim Clinton is secretive about her finances...when she has had tp release tax records year after year, and has had more scrutiny to her finances over the years than anyone else in the country.

They try to claim the Canadian NAFTA scandal is Clinton''s mess, when the Obama camp has admitted that, contrary to what they originally said, their camp did indeed talk to the Canadians and give reassurances.

They ask for her to explain her experience, and she does. And they ignore it and keep asking it as if she never resp;onded.

They ask her to back up her foreign policy experience. She does. They ignore it and keep asking as if she never responded.

They bring up a lawsuit by a spurned businessman looking for vengeance. But they never mention that the claim against Hillary was thrown out of court because of no evidence 2 years ago and was upheld in appeals court.

Obama is aksed to give specifics on his plans. He really doesn''t, (yes i have been to his website and read his white paper). instead he chants "Yes We Can" and preaches hope, and ignores the questions.

I guess it takes a lot of years, maturity and experience to learn that ignoring things does not make them go away.

[pepperwood2]

The reality of Hillary''s & Bills SPIN CITY 35 years of BSSSS.

If you use your intelligence, you''ll soon realize that Bill was a Lowly Governor of a corrupt administration in the State of Arkansas. That was the extend of his resume. He was able with the right band of PR, Press, & Spin to get The People convinced to vote for him.

No he had no prior experience compared to Hillary phoney Spin resume. The real truth is that in the 35 years that she keeps spinning she''s an authority on how to run a corrupt administration in Arkansas & Washington. What you see is what Mr. & Mrs. America will get from the Clintons.

Upon Fleeing they took with them, the whitewater records, Sandy Berger & all their fiends in low places to start all over again in Washington.

We, the people can change all that. Unless were content with the Clinton Politics of Deceit & Dishonesty.

[jed1234561]

Let%u2019s talk about Hillary Clinton%u2019s tactics over the past couple of weeks.

First of all, her main argument for why she is more qualified than Obama is that she has more experience than he does. I guess she believes that being married to a president makes you qualified to be one because she doesn%u2019t really have much experience in any position other than First Lady; if that makes you qualified to run the country than I guess her argument holds true.

Second, Hillary had slammed Obama for his supposed contact with Canada to reassure the Canadian Government that he did not really dislike NAFTA; he was just saying he did for political gain in the presidential race and he would then go back to supporting NAFTA after the election.
Then we come to find out it was ACTUALLY HILLARY CLINTON who had contacted the Canadian government to ensure them that she would not change the trade deals the US has with Canada but she needed to be critical of NAFTA for the short run because her opponent had been making headway by not supporting NAFTA in REAL POLICY.

Third, Clinton blasted Obama for his implied connection to Rezno, who has been investigated for fraud and Hillary has cried corruption and lamented about ethics.
HELLO%u2026DOES ANYONE REMEMBER A LITTLE THING CALLED WHITEWATER!!

[jed1234561]

Let%u2019s talk about Hillary Clinton%u2019s tactics over the past couple of weeks.

First of all, her main argument for why she is more qualified than Obama is that she has more experience than he does. I guess she believes that being married to a president makes you qualified to be one because she doesn%u2019t really have much experience in any position other than First Lady; if that makes you qualified to run the country than I guess her argument holds true.

Second, Hillary had slammed Obama for his supposed contact with Canada to reassure the Canadian Government that he did not really dislike NAFTA; he was just saying he did for political gain in the presidential race and he would then go back to supporting NAFTA after the election.
Then we come to find out it was ACTUALLY HILLARY CLINTON who had contacted the Canadian government to ensure them that she would not change the trade deals the US has with Canada but she needed to be critical of NAFTA for the short run because her opponent had been making headway by not supporting NAFTA in REAL POLICY.

Third, Clinton blasted Obama for his implied connection to Rezno, who has been investigated for fraud and Hillary has cried corruption and lamented about ethics.
HELLO%u2026DOES ANYONE REMEMBER A LITTLE THING CALLED WHITEWATER!!

[tawpdawg1]

jimmyc1955-so I have til the 24th of this month to switch my party affiliation to DEM, vote against Hussein, and then for McCain in November. Got it! We will POUND Clinton and then... 8 more years....8 more years...8 more years ! It''s gonna be great! We''ll all get richer and richer and richer!

[pepperwood2]

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) %u2014 Gov. Ed Rendell, one of Hillary Rodham Clinton''s most visible supporters, said some white Pennsylvanians are likely to vote against her rival Barack Obama because he is black.

"You''ve got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," Rendell told the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in remarks that appeared in Tuesday''s paper.
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Interesting Spin but this comes from Mr. Ed''s & Hillary bias mind set.

First of all, they know full well that if you are conservative white, latino, black, republican and/or independent, you are not allowed to cross over on Election day like you can in other states. Registered independents can''t vote at all in primaries. Registered Republicans only entitled to vote Republican. That will leave you with the registered Democrats that can only vote Democrat that Mr. Ed., the former president of the DNC, was encouraging to vote for Hillary.

If you pay attention to the transparency mind set of the Clintons that we''ve seen. You''ll be able to understand this SPIN & how it is supposed to work for Hillary.

You go a Fiend in Pa. I did not have *** with that woman.

[phillysage]

By the way, we won''t say he looks like a monster--He does look like Malcolm X, though, without the glasses and like him is attractive, eloquent, intelligent,GOOD for NOTHING!!!

[destardi]

Did you know that the Rodhams have a summer home in PA? Check out this story about a Rodham family vacation (Rodham brothers in scuffle)

http://archive.newsmax.com/a
rchives/articles/2001/8/21/63415.shtml
These are the same brothers who made $400,000 on two of Bill''''s pardons.
http://www.telemundodallas.c
om/news/487765/detail.html

Do we really want the Clinton scandals back in the White House.

Posted by OldAbeEagle at 11:46 AM : Mar 07, 2008
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Oh, I dunno...do we want racists in the White House?

"New York State Senator Bill Perkins used quite explicit racial stereotyping in a speech aimed at discouraging his constituents from voting for Clinton by saying, Harlem "is not Bill Clinton''s backyard or his plantation. Underscore, plantation."

THAT IS DISGUSTING. Did Obama correct Perkins? Nope..never made it in the media.

Obama started the racial ***...he attends an all black church, his "trusted Pastor" and his daughter put Louis Farrakhan on the cover of the church magazine, gave him an award, and praised him repeatedly.
A person willing to make "fairy tale" into a racist attribute, is despicable..just to win the nomination.
And Hillary will ''do anything to win''? BS.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200801130004

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

[ranakarimi]

i just like to say if obama become the nominie of our party then i will join republican party obama and his supporters realy scare me to death they act and talk likea criminal mafia oraganization

[wellnotthis]

to ranakarimi "as a former muslim woman and proud american" wait a minute... are you that stupid or you think we are stupid? what makes you think you are a "former" Muslim have more right to be former than Obama which was never a Muslim? Come to think about it, his mother was never a Muslim need I say his step father had nothing about that? hmm ... now you tell us your secret plan to help Islam in this great country

[keeblers69]

You have until March 24th to switch parties, PA is a closed election no crossovers.

[ranakarimi]

i just like to say if obama become the nominie of our party then i will join republican party obama and his supporters realy scare me to death they act and talk likea criminal mafia oraganization

[jimmyc1955]

tawpdawg1 - PA is a closed primary state - no cross overs. This will be a Hillary win - just like Ohio. The machine is very strong here and will pull here through without much effort. Not enough black and well educated voters to make enough of a dent. I doubt if Obama wins Pittsburgh of Philadelphia.

[jimmyc1955]

kstar42 - Your overlooking a lot. Barak doesn''t do well in states where the old line Democratic machine is heavily invested in maintaining the status quo. They don''t want change - they want more of the same. They will back Hillary to the hilt because that she represents the least risk path for them. Rendell in PA is the perfect example. He endorsed Clinton early because he wants a place in her cabinet when his last term in PA expires. Its a pure good old boy network - just with a woman as one of the boys - but it will be business as usual in the Clinton white house.

Barak will get a lot of votes that Hillary may have siphoned off because he is the Democratic candidate if he gets the nomination.

If Hillary pulls Michigan and Florida in for her votes or wins purely on super delegates than there will be a nasty split in the party and nobody wins.