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Washington Post: Plagiarism, Financing Accusations Come on Eve of Wisconsin Primary

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by boatdocster February 19, 2008 10:25 PM EST
popstom1

Why do you waste your time listening to Shawn Hannity? He is one of the most bigoted, bald faced liars on the news circuits.

There are trying to undercut Obama so McCain will face Clinton. The is enough garbage in the Clinton dumpster for McCain to feast on, though I not sure he would win. Much tougher for McCain to go against Obama, who I think is fairly clean as politicians go.

John is a nice guy but he is ready for assisted living...
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by realpatriot1 February 19, 2008 10:14 PM EST
dave455,

You''re not getting it. Those independents who voted for Obama in the Primaries could''ve voted for McCain if they had wanted to but they didn''t want to.

The pattern that''s developed in the Campaign is that
when people get to know more about him by hearing what he actually stands for the lame arguments agianst him are seen as the childness nonsense that they are.

He''s not only the most articulate and calm voice in the race, he''s also the most intelligent and knowledgable with the most specif solutions with the proper direction for the country.

The conservatives have failed miserably, so if you want to run a campaign based upon labels and smears and more of the same I say bring it on!

If you think his support is going to drop off all i can say is Keep Hope Alive!
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by fnewton1 February 19, 2008 9:53 PM EST
This is a pretty low point. The latest criticism goes against the natural trend in life, people can learn and say some of what others experienced before. Most of the available choices are quite bleak; hypocrisy in the forms of counting delegates of non-contested primaries, the latest criticism, the prospect of 2 families occupying the highest office for nearly 30 years; on the other side, someone who said there would be more wars, who distort the reasons about the Iraq''s war and who wants to be there for 100 more years. Mr. Obama is the only realistic hope among the credible candidates. It is worth stating that Mr. Huckabee has a high level of decency despite disagreeing with him on several issues, but he does not have now a realistic chance, as it seems, to be the Republican nominee.
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by popstom1 February 19, 2008 9:40 PM EST
Ok obamanites Tell ME why Shawn Hannity and Mike Morris were on Hannity''s radio show. Discusing haveing republican vote for Obama in the primearies so McCain won''t have to face Hillary Clinton in november they say McCain can beat Obama but might not beat Clinton
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by irliberal February 19, 2008 9:10 PM EST
GO Hillary RAH RAH RAH! WOO!
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by vmcneal2 February 19, 2008 8:54 PM EST
Obama used some words in a speech that a friend of his used in a speech. Hillarys team is so weak that this is the best they can come up with!!! Like or not people like Obama and the more stones Hillary throws at him the stronger he''ll get.
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by davek455 February 19, 2008 8:49 PM EST
formrusmcsgt - you''re not getting it. Those poll numbers will shift dramatically once Obambi is swiftboated and he becomes more widely known. Hillary has been swiftboated, tarred and feathered for decades. Her numbers are not going lower. His can only drop once the skeletons are dragged out of his deep closet.
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by formrusmcsgt February 19, 2008 8:46 PM EST
Once they truly absorb that he cannot defend the country as good as McCain, his negatives will skyrocket.

Posted by davek455 at 05:42 PM : Feb 19, 2008

That appears to be wishful thinking on your part....CNN"s poll publiched last week shows Obama beating McCain by a handy 8 points while Hillary-McCain is a toss-up....
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by formrusmcsgt February 19, 2008 8:43 PM EST
Politics of personal destruction, going negative to me means interviewing fraternity buddies and grade school classmates and digging up dirt about the time so and so put a firecracker in a toad''''s mouth, or dragging out the bimbos someone dated in 1972 and the guy got herpes, etc. That''''s negative, that''''s muckraking. Hillary''''s is not doing that. But it sure has been done to the Clintons plenty

Posted by davek455 at 05:39 PM : Feb 19, 2008

I see.... to you, the difference is the source, not the message.

If comments designed to cast aspersions on another come from within a campaign, they''re not negative.

If they come from someone outside the campaign, they are.

Strange logic, to say the least, from my perspective.

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by davek455 February 19, 2008 8:42 PM EST
Obama''s appeal will drop dramatically if he is the nominee. Once the independants learn that Obama supports partial birth abortions (Hillary does not unless the mother''s life is in danger), once they learn he is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, once they learn he would impose strong controls on guns (Hillary would not), they will flee him. Once they truly absorb that he cannot defend the country as good as McCain, his negatives will skyrocket.
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by davek455 February 19, 2008 8:39 PM EST
Politics is like war. Of course you attack your opponent if you''re gonna win. Politics of personal destruction, going negative to me means interviewing fraternity buddies and grade school classmates and digging up dirt about the time so and so put a firecracker in a toad''s mouth, or dragging out the bimbos someone dated in 1972 and the guy got herpes, etc. That''s negative, that''s muckraking. Hillary''s is not doing that. But it sure has been done to the Clintons plenty
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by formrusmcsgt February 19, 2008 8:35 PM EST
I would like for the Hillary suppoters to answer one question:

Poll after poll shows that Hillary is shunned by the Independents while the majority of we Independents embrace Obama and failing that, embrace McCain - how could Hillary possibly win in a general election without the Independents?
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by formrusmcsgt February 19, 2008 8:25 PM EST
Kids are kicked out of school for plagiarism and some are even charged. Why should a presidential candidate get away with it? What is that teaching those kids?

Posted by erasmus6 at 05:20 PM : Feb 19, 2008

Obama stated within 48 hours of paraphrasing Patrick that he should have given Patrick credit.

Hillary, after 5 years, still can''t bring herself to admit she stepped in in when she voted to give Dubya the nod to invade Iraq.

Which, to you, is the bigger character flaw?

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by hawksprings February 19, 2008 8:21 PM EST
davek455,
Nice try, but Hillary''s SOP is to immediately cry about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy or the Politics of Personal destruction if anyone criticizes her.

She can dish it out, but she can''t take it.
People who live in glass houses shouldn''t throw stones.
She''s the pot calling the kettle black.
If she can''t stand the heat she should get out of the kitchen.
Stupid is as stupid does.
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by erasmus6 February 19, 2008 8:20 PM EST
Kids are kicked out of school for plagiarism and some are even charged. Why should a presidential candidate get away with it? What is that teaching those kids?

He says that he had permission but that is no excuse to not inform people that it wasn''t his words. By not doing so he was leading people to believe that they were his words. That is deceitful.

And I would bet you any money that he didn''t have permission and he was scrambling like hell to get that guy to cover his a-s-s.

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by liberty4you February 19, 2008 8:15 PM EST
If this is the type of experience America needs for the next four years, what do the Hillary supporters believe Washington will be like? A blender? A kaleidescope? Hillary supported NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) and now if you go down to Mexico you can see that the Mexicans are really not benefiting from these TransNational Corporations that have exploited the working classes there.

5 Million jobs have been sent overseas since 1996. The Mexican border NAFTA sub-companies are being run by the Mafia. They are exploiting women and children.

This is not experience. It is old British Imperialism. America needs new leadership for Americans, not the British.
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by taddles-2009 February 19, 2008 8:13 PM EST
"More Obama plagiarism

Posted by nbfzzz at 04:48 PM : Feb 19, 2008"

In all but the third article the same McCain operative (Kevin Hassett, McCain economic adviser) posted particularily foolish charge that Obama stole Clinton''s economic plan, what garbage. Because they have similar economic plans in no way constitutes plagiarism. McCains adviser leveling charges at Obama?!?!? Of course they are, McCain has demonstrated quite convincingly that there is no a$$ dirty enough he will not kiss to get elected.

Your third article quotes some putz is trying to claim in the Drudge report (noted right wing rag) that Obama stole his "change rocks" slogan. Two words don''t make plagiarism, that''s just stupid.

This is just pathetic, you can''t come up with an intelligent argument so you post articles from noted right wing rags.

I am sooo gonna enjoy that Democratic inauguration in January, I''m gonna party for a month!



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by formrusmcsgt February 19, 2008 8:11 PM EST
That is NOT going negative.

Posted by davek455 at 05:10 PM : Feb 19, 2008

If attacking your opponent as opposed to extolling YOUR qualifications is not "going negative", then just what does "going negative" mean to you exactly?
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by davek455 February 19, 2008 8:10 PM EST
The notion that Hillary is engaging in politics of personal destruction is simply rediculous. Obambi cannot get a free pass, now or in the general election. That''s what he wants. Everyone to swallow every lofty speech and raise him as the Messiah. It is legitimate to question his source for his speeches. It is legitimate to scrutinize his words and call him on the carpet on his policy contradictions. That is NOT going negative. That is called an election. Obambi supporters WAKE UP. His FREE RIDE IS OVER!
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by formrusmcsgt February 19, 2008 8:06 PM EST
Obama also showed to me the same. I feel that this man is proving to America that he has a more willing approach to real progress. He is bringing the country back together. Something Washington D.C. lacks.

Posted by Liberty4You at 05:03 PM : Feb 19, 2008

He is also honest enough to admit errors, a quality that Hillary just does not possess.

Neither does Dubya.

8 years of leadership too arrogant to admit error is more than enough.


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