Comments on: Analysis: Dems' Dilemma Over Fla., Mich.

Washington Post: Growing Urgency To Deal With Delegates From States Sanctioned For Holding Early Primaries

[kaq51]

Naturally Hitlary wants the 105 delegates. She''ll do and say anything to get the nomination.

She could care less if Obama or Edwards was on the ballot even thought they did the right thing in boycotting the issue.

Both Michigan and Florida shouldn''t be allowed to send representatives to the convention. They knew the rules well in advance and they didn''t care to follow them.

The line has to be drawn and if these two states are used as examples then oh well, they put themselves in that position.

The rules apply to everyone or our system doesn''t work.

[kaq51]

Naturally Hitlary wants the 105 delegates. She''ll do and say anything to get the nomination.

She could care less if Obama or Edwards was on the ballot even thought they did the right thing in boycotting the issue.

Both Michigan and Florida shouldn''t be allowed to send representatives to the convention. They knew the rules well in advance and they didn''t care to follow them.

The line has to be drawn and if these two states are used as examples then oh well, they put themselves in that position.

The rules apply to everyone or our system doesn''t work.

[libra127]

"Obama rightfully did not campaign here or make any statements regarding the policy. Clinton''s appearance after the election (immediately after) showed her skuzzy campaign style."
Posted by dhdorton at 05:04 PM : Feb 10, 2008

Sorry but I believe you are wrong on both counts. Obama ran TV ads in Florida, which counts as campaigning. Hillary did NOT campaign in Florida. Your claim of a "skuzzy campaign style" is pure prejudice.

[walkingbrit]

The mess left by the DNC is only a part of the problem. There are deep divisions emerging because superdelegates still trample on the influence of registered democrats.

Further division occurs because whilst some primaries offer a secret ballot to registered democrat voters others pretty much allow any Tom, *** or Harry to wander in and influence the process.

Then there is a caucus, a process that fails to meet even the minimum standards for a fair election by UN standards. A few thousand (or hundred) get to decide how anything up to 1.5 million might have voted had they been given an opportunity.

The democratic process has always been underpinned by the ballot box and a secret ballot. The first step needed by the Democratic Party is to adopt a secret ballot for all primaries and for these to be open only to registered Democrats. At least then everyone who is a registered Democrat has a say.
It is clearly too late to do that for this election, but it would mean that the Democratic Party no longer looked like a rather dumb bunch of adults who can''t even agree what democracy is about.

[pilgrimsway-2009]

It is also in my view false to say that life in AMERICA today is solely determined by considerations of foreign policy, that the primacy of foreign policy governs today the whole of our domestic life. Certainly a people can reach the point when foreign relations influence and determine completely its domestic life. But let no one say that such a CONDITION is from the first either natural or desirable. Rather the important thing is that a people should CREATE the conditions for CHANGE in this state of affairs.

We know by the charisma who said this!

Answer

Hit-lers quote Jan 27 1932

[greenp4]

Obama''s success may set back the country''s race relationship by decades. Obama''s success is mainly based on political correctness in politics. Any criticism of Obama is automatically labelled racist and Obama can become nothing but a saint. This leaves a big bad taste in the mouths of a lot of fair-minded people.

[greenp4]

The caucus system is very undemocratic. It disenfrachises the old, anyone with a disability/illness, anyone travelling, anyone who can''''t get off work (usually the poor or the professionals such as health care workers), as well as people who are shy/meek/not outspoken or those who do not want to state their choice when confronted by strong opinionated people. This is crazy. Even in a primary, we allow people to vote absentee and we keep the voting places open at least 12 hours, we allow people to vote early, and it is all confidential with no arm twisting to get you to change your vote. The caucus system should be unconstitutional.


Posted by Janice_cbs at 03:57 PM : Feb 10, 2008

Can''t say it better myself. Great critique on why Caucus system should be banned.

[croft777]

Many people I have talked to who was going to vote for Obama, after I told them about his church, pastor, and pastors friend Farrakhan, they made a horifying face, they said no to that. So what do you think the Republicans are going to do if he get nominated for DEM. Their waiting to bring the trash out on him when he get the party. But not now, because they want him to win, thats why they are bashing hillary instead, because they don''t want her to win. It all make common sense.

[croft777]

dhdorton It would be hipocritical of the democratic party to seat the delegates from Florida after assuring the voters that they would not do so. Obama rightfully did not campaign here or make any statements regarding the policy. Clinton''''s appearance after the election (immediately after) showed her skuzzy campaign style. Clinton is desperate in the face of a real challenge, one that will surely show her as the loser Bill has assured her she is.


You got a real problem saying that. For one, Those votes in Michigan and in Florida should count. It is not the peoples fault that their state Gov. changed that date. If the truth be known Hillary won both states that carry a large portion of the delegates. I think all this sh*t is set up. They want Obama to win, Reps could beat him. Once people know what Obama is, they will think twice about voting for him. If you have noticed, none of the media, or the republicans have talked about Obamas church, his book, which are truly racist, and many other things which are hidden from the publics eyes, unless people dig for them?

[dhdorton]

It would be hipocritical of the democratic party to seat the delegates from Florida after assuring the voters that they would not do so. Obama rightfully did not campaign here or make any statements regarding the policy. Clinton''s appearance after the election (immediately after) showed her skuzzy campaign style. Clinton is desperate in the face of a real challenge, one that will surely show her as the loser Bill has assured her she is.