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Washington Post: Growing Urgency To Deal With Delegates From States Sanctioned For Holding Early Primaries
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- Thank you Jesse Jackson for such a F*#&$^ up primary delegate system that no one understands...not even the experts.
Every newspaper and tv station has a different count for delegate counts.
Democracy does not exist with Florida and Michigan shut out and super delegates involved.
Caucuses are the biggest JOKE in the world...no absentee ballot, no secret ballot, very few causus locations, and you must show up at a specific time or you don''t count (you can not vote if you have to work, or need a baby sitter,....). In an election you could atleast vote in the am afternoon or evening or absentee ballot if you can not travel or are handicapped.
DEMOCRACY NOW!
No more of this Jesse Jackson stuff.
These "Proportional delegates..." WHAT THE??
The general election is not a proportional thing....who ever wins wins all the delegates from that state.
I support letting Michigan and Florida have their delegates back--no caucus!!!!! - Reply to this comment
- "You have to ask yourselves why it is that the terrorists want a Dem in the White House so badly? HMMM!!! "--Posted by katg21
How is it you know so much about what "terrorists want"?
HMMMM?! - Reply to this comment
- Corporate media won''''t report this fact about the Corporate-Owned Democratic Party....
Consider ALL of the people from ALL of the following states,who voted in the Democratic primaries/caucuses. Their votes will count LESS than the "superdelegates", who are mostly DNC party hacks.
Arkansas
Connecticut
Delaware
Hawaii
Iowa
Idaho
Kansas
Maine
Missouri
Montana
North Dakota
Nebraska
New Hampshire
Nevada
Oklahoma
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Utah
Vermont
West Virginia
Wyoming
Thats right! If you lived in any of these states, your collective vote (ALL of you combined), counts LESS than the superdelegate party hacks (who during Clinton the first gave us NAFTA, Telecom Deregulation, Wall Street/Banking deregulation, and nothing on alternative energy, corporate welfare reform, progressive taxes, cut bloated military....)
and you actually believed in "one person, one vote" ? Not in America! - Reply to this comment
- "What Hillary wants, Hillary shall get."
Posted by katg21 at 12:03 PM : Feb 10, 2008
Gee, thanks for that, kat. That means Hillary would be a very effective President and would be able to solve alot of America''s problems and get alot done. That''s what I''ve always believed. VOTE HILLARY. - Reply to this comment
- The mess left by the DNC is only a part of the problem. There are deep divisions emerging because superdelegates still trample on the influence of registered democrats.
Further division occurs because whilst some primaries offer a secret ballot to registered democrat voters others pretty much allow any Tom, *** or Harry to wander in and influence the process.
Then there is a caucus, a process that fails to meet even the minimum standards for a fair election by UN standards. A few thousand (or hundred) get to decide how anything up to 1.5 million might have voted had they been given an opportunity.
The democratic process has always been underpinned by the ballot box and a secret ballot. The first step needed by the Democratic Party is to adopt a secret ballot for all primaries and for these to be open only to registered Democrats. At least then everyone who is a registered Democrat has a say.
It is clearly too late to do that for this election, but it would mean that the Democratic Party no longer looked like a rather dumb bunch of adults who can''t even agree what democracy is about. - Reply to this comment
- The mess left by the DNC is only a part of the problem. There are deep divisions emerging because superdelegates still trample on the influence of registered democrats.
Further division occurs because whilst some primaries offer a secret ballot to registered democrat voters others pretty much allow any Tom, *** or Harry to wander in and influence the process.
Then there is a caucus, a process that fails to meet even the minimum standards for a fair election by UN standards. A few thousand (or hundred) get to decide how anything up to 1.5 million might have voted had they been given an opportunity.
The democratic process has always been underpinned by the ballot box and a secret ballot. The first step needed by the Democratic Party is to adopt a secret ballot for all primaries and for these to be open only to registered Democrats. At least then everyone who is a registered Democrat has a say.
It is clearly too late to do that for this election, but it would mean that the Democratic Party no longer looked like a rather dumb bunch of adults who can''t even agree what democracy is about. - Reply to this comment
- Naturally Hitlary wants the 105 delegates. She''ll do and say anything to get the nomination.
She could care less if Obama or Edwards was on the ballot even thought they did the right thing in boycotting the issue.
Both Michigan and Florida shouldn''t be allowed to send representatives to the convention. They knew the rules well in advance and they didn''t care to follow them.
The line has to be drawn and if these two states are used as examples then oh well, they put themselves in that position.
The rules apply to everyone or our system doesn''t work. - Reply to this comment
- The mess left by the DNC is only a part of the problem. There are deep divisions emerging because superdelegates still trample on the influence of registered democrats.
Further division occurs because whilst some primaries offer a secret ballot to registered democrat voters others pretty much allow any Tom, *** or Harry to wander in and influence the process.
Then there is a caucus, a process that fails to meet even the minimum standards for a fair election by UN standards. A few thousand (or hundred) get to decide how anything up to 1.5 million might have voted had they been given an opportunity.
The democratic process has always been underpinned by the ballot box and a secret ballot. The first step needed by the Democratic Party is to adopt a secret ballot for all primaries and for these to be open only to registered Democrats. At least then everyone who is a registered Democrat has a say.
It is clearly too late to do that for this election, but it would mean that the Democratic Party no longer looked like a rather dumb bunch of adults who can''t even agree what democracy is about. - Reply to this comment
- Naturally Hitlary wants the 105 delegates. She''ll do and say anything to get the nomination.
She could care less if Obama or Edwards was on the ballot even thought they did the right thing in boycotting the issue.
Both Michigan and Florida shouldn''t be allowed to send representatives to the convention. They knew the rules well in advance and they didn''t care to follow them.
The line has to be drawn and if these two states are used as examples then oh well, they put themselves in that position.
The rules apply to everyone or our system doesn''t work. - Reply to this comment
- Naturally Hitlary wants the 105 delegates. She''ll do and say anything to get the nomination.
She could care less if Obama or Edwards was on the ballot even thought they did the right thing in boycotting the issue.
Both Michigan and Florida shouldn''t be allowed to send representatives to the convention. They knew the rules well in advance and they didn''t care to follow them.
The line has to be drawn and if these two states are used as examples then oh well, they put themselves in that position.
The rules apply to everyone or our system doesn''t work. - Reply to this comment
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