Comments on: Blacks Stung By Bill Clinton's Remarks

Washington Post: Attacks On Obama Lead To Newfound Anger At Former President From African-Americans

[rfield9]

cont;

- She should be held accountable on her record. -

As should all persons trying to run for that office. That is what
Bill is doing to Obama. It is items the media is glossing over,
not made up *** like drug dealing and going to Muslim
schools. That is what the GOP will hit him with whenever
he is the nominee.

This is tactical on Bill''s part, forcing Obama off his "happy
unity" message, to answer specific items like voting for
Iraq war funding. It is intentional, and it is fair game.

If he thought Bill Clinton would lay down while he
cakewalks to this nomination - past his wife whom has
paid far more dues and is far more credentialed as
a Progressive - Obama was kidding himself.

Obama surrogates need to stop crying already. Obama
has every right to challenge for this nomination, but this
is what he bought into.

[rfield9]

cont;

- She claims he praised the policies of reagan. ABC and NBC have done reports showing that this is a lie. -

"Praised" is subjective. It is not true/false.
Watch the video clip of Obama on it that I posted
above, instead of allowing ABC to parse it for you.

She gets to state her view, Obama has to respond.
Welcome to politics. He made the remark that touched
it off.


- Bill says there is no difference between them on Iraq.


Nope. He said no difference since 2004. Watch his clip I posted.
Here it is again;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Ytbr-7VaE

[rfield9]

- Reply to realpatriot1 -
Hillary distributed flyers in Iowa accusing Obama of opposing reproductive rights because he voted present on an abortion bill in the Illinois legislature. -

Her view may be that it amounted to that, regardless
of who "asked" Obama to vote that way. He is still
responsible for his decision to not show up for that
vote. She gets to raise it. It is up to him to answer it.

Obama ran a radio ad in NV on Hispanic stations,
blatently charging Hillary as anti-Hispanic. She had
to overcome that. This is how it goes.


- She has attacked his health plan because it fails to provide universal coverage, but her plan which she claims to be universal doesn''''t cover everyone either. -

Hillary''s requires insurance be bought by all, Obama''s
is like that of Bush 1 when he got in trouble with the
issue in 1992. "I''ll put up some govt money if you want
to go buy it - now I''m done with the issue"

There is a difference in the plans. I don''t believe Hillary''s
is good enough. We need single payer. But Obama''s is
more like a GOP plan. It allows shark insurers to continue
to divide the healthy from those with pre-existing conditions.

cont;

[l00ker]

nIt was a cheap attempt to appeal to independents,
and he got called on it.



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Posted by RField9 at 01:11 PM : Jan 26, 2008


Okay.

[bong_jamesbo]

The one way the Dems can lose this election is to shoot themselves in the foot via racial mudslinging. There might be life after the convention, you know! Hard to say that Dems should be both thicker-skinned and more sensitive at the same time, but if such could be said, now would be the time to say it. All those folks you are alienating now are going to have to be your friends in September if you want to win in November. ''It''s the economy, stupid'', seems to have turned into ''It''s your race, stupid,'' emphasis on the STUPID. Is Obama half white, half black, or both? Does it matter? Can folks quite patronizing folks of the other race (yeah, it does work both ways, or rather, DOESN''T WORK, both ways)? WE are not the bad guys, emphasis on the WE. Unite, or perish!

[socrates392]

This is a campaign for President and nasty statements will be made on both sides. The Clintons are attacking because they know that Obama is "not" a fairy tale. Bill is going say and do whatever it takes to get his wife elected.

Posted by vmcneal2

Couldn''t have said it better myself!

[vmcneal2]

This is a campaign for President and nasty statements will be made on both sides. The Clintons are attacking because they know that Obama is "not" a fairy tale. Bill is going say and do whatever it takes to get his wife elected.

[abrady21]

"The crime control act signed by Clinton led to a disastrous spike in the black prisoner population, and the welfare-to-work legislation he signed was damaging to black families, Toomer wrote."

Um...does anyone see a problem with this?

How could the crime control act lead to a spike in the black prisoner population if they weren''t committing crimes? It should lead to a spike in all races alike. I guess if you''re committing crimes and getting caught, having to *actually* spend time in state prison might be damaging to your family. Or here''s a thought. How about not committing a crime at all. Then you wouldn''t have anything to worry about.

If you''re working, the welfare-to-work legislation would only help you. If you want to sit around and not do anything, I could see how that would be damaging.

It bothers me that there is no accountability from someone like Sharon Toomer of blackandbrownnews.com, rather a sense of blame and/or entitlement. If she really wanted to see her people getting ahead, she would advocate people getting off of welfare and not committing crimes. Rather, she is laying blame upon Clinton for his doing something to further black people in society.

[l00ker]

Liberal, white, life-long Democratic voters, who fought on behalf of black Americans in the civil rights trenches of the 1960''''s - like myself - are getting sick and tired of these screwball racial politics. It''''s been 2-1/2 generations since we began to redress historical wrongs. It will probably take another 2 generations, but black politicians have a responsibility to lead the way, not play the same old tired *** victim politics. It''''s a huge turn off. We did our part. Now black America needs to shut up and so some of the remaining serious work left to do.


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Posted by juno912 at 11:56 AM : Jan 26, 2008


Funny you should say that, that''s what the Obama campaign is all about.

[l00ker]

Think for yourself for a change. Name me one "lie"
of Bill or Hillary, in this campaign. Specific
statement which is not true. Go ahead...
Posted by rfield9 at 02:14 AM : Jan 26, 2008


1. The distortion of Barack''s Reagan comment.

2. The distortion of the Rezko business.

3. The "this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I''ve ever seen" distortion of Barack''s Iraq War vote.

4. The lie that Barack said that Republicans had all of the "best" ideas of the last 10 to 15 years.

5. The "35 years of experience" fairy tale.