Comments on: Blacks Stung By Bill Clinton's Remarks

Washington Post: Attacks On Obama Lead To Newfound Anger At Former President From African-Americans

[rfield9]

cont;

- She should be held accountable on her record. -

As should all persons trying to run for that office. That is what
Bill is doing to Obama. It is items the media is glossing over,
not made up *** like drug dealing and going to Muslim
schools. That is what the GOP will hit him with whenever
he is the nominee.

This is tactical on Bill''s part, forcing Obama off his "happy
unity" message, to answer specific items like voting for
Iraq war funding. It is intentional, and it is fair game.

If he thought Bill Clinton would lay down while he
cakewalks to this nomination - past his wife whom has
paid far more dues and is far more credentialed as
a Progressive - Obama was kidding himself.

Obama surrogates need to stop crying already. Obama
has every right to challenge for this nomination, but this
is what he bought into.

[rfield9]

cont;

- She claims he praised the policies of reagan. ABC and NBC have done reports showing that this is a lie. -

"Praised" is subjective. It is not true/false.
Watch the video clip of Obama on it that I posted
above, instead of allowing ABC to parse it for you.

She gets to state her view, Obama has to respond.
Welcome to politics. He made the remark that touched
it off.


- Bill says there is no difference between them on Iraq.


Nope. He said no difference since 2004. Watch his clip I posted.
Here it is again;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Ytbr-7VaE

[rfield9]

- Reply to realpatriot1 -
Hillary distributed flyers in Iowa accusing Obama of opposing reproductive rights because he voted present on an abortion bill in the Illinois legislature. -

Her view may be that it amounted to that, regardless
of who "asked" Obama to vote that way. He is still
responsible for his decision to not show up for that
vote. She gets to raise it. It is up to him to answer it.

Obama ran a radio ad in NV on Hispanic stations,
blatently charging Hillary as anti-Hispanic. She had
to overcome that. This is how it goes.


- She has attacked his health plan because it fails to provide universal coverage, but her plan which she claims to be universal doesn''''t cover everyone either. -

Hillary''s requires insurance be bought by all, Obama''s
is like that of Bush 1 when he got in trouble with the
issue in 1992. "I''ll put up some govt money if you want
to go buy it - now I''m done with the issue"

There is a difference in the plans. I don''t believe Hillary''s
is good enough. We need single payer. But Obama''s is
more like a GOP plan. It allows shark insurers to continue
to divide the healthy from those with pre-existing conditions.

cont;

[l00ker]

nIt was a cheap attempt to appeal to independents,
and he got called on it.



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Posted by RField9 at 01:11 PM : Jan 26, 2008


Okay.

[bong_jamesbo]

The one way the Dems can lose this election is to shoot themselves in the foot via racial mudslinging. There might be life after the convention, you know! Hard to say that Dems should be both thicker-skinned and more sensitive at the same time, but if such could be said, now would be the time to say it. All those folks you are alienating now are going to have to be your friends in September if you want to win in November. ''It''s the economy, stupid'', seems to have turned into ''It''s your race, stupid,'' emphasis on the STUPID. Is Obama half white, half black, or both? Does it matter? Can folks quite patronizing folks of the other race (yeah, it does work both ways, or rather, DOESN''T WORK, both ways)? WE are not the bad guys, emphasis on the WE. Unite, or perish!

[socrates392]

This is a campaign for President and nasty statements will be made on both sides. The Clintons are attacking because they know that Obama is "not" a fairy tale. Bill is going say and do whatever it takes to get his wife elected.

Posted by vmcneal2

Couldn''t have said it better myself!

[vmcneal2]

This is a campaign for President and nasty statements will be made on both sides. The Clintons are attacking because they know that Obama is "not" a fairy tale. Bill is going say and do whatever it takes to get his wife elected.

[abrady21]

"The crime control act signed by Clinton led to a disastrous spike in the black prisoner population, and the welfare-to-work legislation he signed was damaging to black families, Toomer wrote."

Um...does anyone see a problem with this?

How could the crime control act lead to a spike in the black prisoner population if they weren''t committing crimes? It should lead to a spike in all races alike. I guess if you''re committing crimes and getting caught, having to *actually* spend time in state prison might be damaging to your family. Or here''s a thought. How about not committing a crime at all. Then you wouldn''t have anything to worry about.

If you''re working, the welfare-to-work legislation would only help you. If you want to sit around and not do anything, I could see how that would be damaging.

It bothers me that there is no accountability from someone like Sharon Toomer of blackandbrownnews.com, rather a sense of blame and/or entitlement. If she really wanted to see her people getting ahead, she would advocate people getting off of welfare and not committing crimes. Rather, she is laying blame upon Clinton for his doing something to further black people in society.

[l00ker]

Liberal, white, life-long Democratic voters, who fought on behalf of black Americans in the civil rights trenches of the 1960''''s - like myself - are getting sick and tired of these screwball racial politics. It''''s been 2-1/2 generations since we began to redress historical wrongs. It will probably take another 2 generations, but black politicians have a responsibility to lead the way, not play the same old tired *** victim politics. It''''s a huge turn off. We did our part. Now black America needs to shut up and so some of the remaining serious work left to do.


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Posted by juno912 at 11:56 AM : Jan 26, 2008


Funny you should say that, that''s what the Obama campaign is all about.

[l00ker]

Think for yourself for a change. Name me one "lie"
of Bill or Hillary, in this campaign. Specific
statement which is not true. Go ahead...
Posted by rfield9 at 02:14 AM : Jan 26, 2008


1. The distortion of Barack''s Reagan comment.

2. The distortion of the Rezko business.

3. The "this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I''ve ever seen" distortion of Barack''s Iraq War vote.

4. The lie that Barack said that Republicans had all of the "best" ideas of the last 10 to 15 years.

5. The "35 years of experience" fairy tale.

[chirumbolo]

Liberal, white, life-long Democratic voters, who fought on behalf of black Americans in the civil rights trenches of the 1960''s - like myself - are getting sick and tired of these screwball racial politics. It''s been 2-1/2 generations since we began to redress historical wrongs. It will probably take another 2 generations, but black politicians have a responsibility to lead the way, not play the same old tired *** victim politics. It''s a huge turn off. We did our part. Now black America needs to shut up and so some of the remaining serious work left to do.

[realpatriot1]

rfield9,

Let''s talk about legitimate questioning on records.

Hillary distributed flyers in Iowa accusing Obama of opposing reproductive rights because he voted present on an abortion bill in the Illinois legislature. Do you know why he did? He was asked to by the leader of the Illinois Planned Parenthood Association.

She has attacked his health plan because it fails to provide universal coverage, but her plan which she claims to be universal doesn''t cover everyone either.

She claims he praised the policies of reagan. ABC and NBC have done reports showing that this is a lie. If you want proof that the Clintons have lied in this campaign don''t take an Obama supporters word for it go to the media-they have lied repeatedly!

Bill says there is no difference between them on Iraq. I beg to differ. While Obama was speaking out against a pre-emptive war prior to the invasion Hillary was given the opportunity to provide Bush with conditional authorization when the Levin amendment was voted on.

It would''ve required Bush to wait until the U.N. inspections had been completed. As we now know, that would''ve removed his rationale for invasion and we wouldn''t be in this mess now. She could have voted for the Levin amendment and helped pass it like Efwards did. She could have voted present and not have helped to defeat it. She voted no and helped to hand Bush a blank check.

She should be held accountable on her ecord.

[madashell4lo]

The fairy tail today is one of the following: Monica did not inhale, Hillary shot a cheating husband, Hillary steadfastly examines people who work for her, The word "is" was defined by Bill and Monica, and last but not least, Whitewater is a state of mind.

[gaye5]

From the article off the net.
Following Karl Marx%u2019s death in 1883, his theories were made a world force by two developments %u2026 rise of the Fabian Society in England and Lenin%u2019s Bolshevik movement. In 1884, a small group of English intellectuals formed the Fabian Society. Their goal was to establish the same classless, godless, socialistic, one-world society envisioned by Marx.
Today, Fabians and like-minded dupes are like a cancer in every segment of society worldwide! They are the rich, the powerful, the famous, and countless lesser followers embedded not only in every government globally, but in every other influential organization as well (political, social, cultural, religious, whatever)! In other words, they%u2019re everywhere; in business, finance, unions, activist organizations, TV, radio, newspapers, etc! This, indeed, is the Global Village, for they embrace the New World Order of Globalism as a religion of unity! It%u2019s appeal is survival in a world of fear and hunger! They are motivated by words like humanity and compassion though this is a great deception!

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Tony Blair, and a worldwide host of elitist propagandists, politicians, academics, etc have altered the minds of millions upon millions including our children of school or child care age!

[gaye5]

bobnjersey, I am sorry that I didn''t get back sooner, but our we have a time difference between our countries.
The Fabian society has an agenda and they say that they are using the left wing governments of the world it bring in what the elite consider is correct for the world, and when reading their remarks on the surface it all looks so good..
You wont know when it happens as it is being done very slowly, and we slowly just get used to every change without blinking an eyelid, until more and more people can no longer afford their properties etc..
Like you I don''t like Bush, but the left could be far worse.. Bill Clinton was trained by modern Fabians during his Rhodes scholarship at Oxford, so I presume that his wife is a Fabian also..
Try looking up things like .....
The New Fabians
By Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.
People dependent on the state are easy to control, as we see in Russia they are also unhappy as they have nothing to strive for..
Yugoslavia and Littleton, it said

How can a simple person like me see holocaust at the door while powerful elitists see nothing tyrannical? When I look through the peephole of history, I see super-tyrants Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Mao, Mussolini, and Pol Pot holding hands with Marx, Lenin, and George Bernard Shaw!

[terrorislam6]

Think for yourself for a change. Name me one "lie"
of Bill or Hillary, in this campaign. Specific
statement which is not true. Go ahead...
Posted by rfield9 at 02:14 AM : Jan 26, 2008

hahaha what a dummycrat hahaha

"Listen to me," he said defiantly that day. "I''m going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

President Clinton acknowledged last night that he had an inappropriate relationship with onetime intern Monica S. Lewinsky and deceived the American people about it,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/clinton081898.htm

[terrorislam6]

hahaha

dummycrats getting played by a couple of barkansas hicks LOL

hahaha

[terrorislam6]

"Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it%u2019s troubling,%u201D Geffen said.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003548043

hahahaha people paying to read and listen to an admitted, proven, convicted, impeached, disbarred liar%u2026lol
For Clinton, New Wealth In Speeches
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022202189.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/21/AR2007022100993_pf.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17263999/

Sales of Bill Clinton book drops
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071016/ap_on_el_pr/bill_clinton_book_1

[terrorislam6]

For nearly two decades, Yvette Wider, an African American, adored Bill Clinton, once described by a famous black novelist as the nation''s first black president.

But now, after Clinton''s "fairy tale" remark about Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) in New Hampshire and a statement in South Carolina that Obama had put a political "hit job" on him, Wider said she feels she hardly knows the former president. "I was surprised to hear him make a comment like that, because I thought he understood our people better," said Wider, who said she will vote for Obama in Saturday''s South Carolina primary. "It made me think he''s been playing us all this time."

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it is the vast kkklowntoon conspiracy

hahaha

are dummycrats dumb or what LOL

hahaha

[rfield9]

-- the Clintons - that they can spin a new web of lies
Posted by SharnCedar --


Name one of those lies. You are being told they
are "lying". It''s the same *** put out by the
RNC talking points memos. The kind of garbage
Rush Limbaugh dupes believe.

Think for yourself for a change. Name me one "lie"
of Bill or Hillary, in this campaign. Specific
statement which is not true. Go ahead...