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Washington Post: Democratic Front-Runners Try Backing Away From Racially-Charged Debate

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by gunownerdan January 15, 2008 5:02 PM EST
Both Clinton and Obama say you as a citizen cannot be trusted to own common handguns, rifles, and shotguns. Meanwhile they are surrounded by bodyguards holding fully-automatic MACHINE GUNS.

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual ... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of."
- Suzanna Gratia-Hupp
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by lochlan-2009 January 15, 2008 4:55 PM EST
Another article to make the news about Obama and Hillary. I guess Edwards is not the guy for the media empire since he doesn''t even exist in this article.
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by realpatriot1 January 15, 2008 4:54 PM EST
mocoleo,

Huckabee is now calling for amending the Constitution
to "meet God''s standards". He beats Hillary one-on-one.
Not everyone will vote for any Dem and Hillary''s negatives are at 50%.

A woman can be elected President in 2008; any woman but her.
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by chitown639 January 15, 2008 4:42 PM EST
Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee, chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981. Dr. Manford Byrd, our brother in Christ, withstood the ravage of being denied his earned ascension to the number one position in the Chicago School System. His dedication to the pursuit of excellence, despite systematic denials, has inspired the congregation of Trinity United Church of Christ.
All this because Dr Manford Byrd was not selected as Chicago''''s superintendent of schools. Nothing is mentioned that Chicago''''s schools had a dropout rate of more than 40 percent during Byrd''''s years in charge. That is conveniently left off the church website. Quite questionable origins don''''t you think?

Posted by cptdeuce

What!!! 40% drop out rate!!! Well, maybe this Manford Byrd character shouldnt be running for president...wait a minute he isnt!!! Obama is running for president, not Byrd, so whats your point???
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by whitepicks2 January 15, 2008 4:41 PM EST
Is that going to solve the most pressing issues of our time - getting off oil, people without health care and slipping into poverty, ending the war, renewable energy, global warming - when we are trying to divide people through vague references to religion, cptdeuce?

Like it or not if you ask most people about religion''s role in solving these issues, they''ll say it has hardly any, but they will say Obama has the judgement to lead us to work together for solving them.
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by gunownerdan January 15, 2008 4:41 PM EST

Obama, Clinton, and the KKK agree:

They all believe law-abiding black citizens should not be trusted to own guns.

www.a-human-right.com
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by cptdeuce January 15, 2008 4:40 PM EST
My church does NOT have a Commitment to the White Community, a Commitment to the White Family, Adherence to the White Work Ethic, Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the White Community, Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions, Pledge Allegiance to All White Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the White Value System or Personal Commitment to Embracement of the White Value System.
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE RACIST %u2013 RIGHT?
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by samthetvcat January 15, 2008 4:40 PM EST
In the latest Rasmussen Poll, both Hillary and Barack are down nationally and Edwards is up.

Time for all of us to let the rhetoric die down for the sake of our favorite candidates - sometimes it can be more powerful to ''fight back'' by choosing to reroute the dialogue onto the issues than to drain your precious resources by remaining hostage to an unwinnable war of words . . .
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by sgtrds January 15, 2008 4:39 PM EST
This whole supposed race problem between Obama and the Clintons is a whole lot of media driven BS. Much ado about nothing.

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by realpatriot1 January 15, 2008 4:37 PM EST
EddyNewHope, Excellent post in a sea of racist Clinton ***!

If she wins the nomination the entire Dem ticket will go under. She cost the Dems the Congress before and she''ll do it again. Most of the newly elected Reps who provide the dems with their majority are moderates in swing districts and Hillary at the top of the ticket will evaporate that majority in a flash and we''ll be back to the do-nothing stay in Iraq forever Repubs.

Wake up Dems before it''s too late! The woman and her husband are poison!
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by cptdeuce January 15, 2008 4:34 PM EST
Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee, chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981. Dr. Manford Byrd, our brother in Christ, withstood the ravage of being denied his earned ascension to the number one position in the Chicago School System. His dedication to the pursuit of excellence, despite systematic denials, has inspired the congregation of Trinity United Church of Christ.
All this because Dr Manford Byrd was not selected as Chicago''s superintendent of schools. Nothing is mentioned that Chicago''s schools had a dropout rate of more than 40 percent during Byrd''s years in charge. That is conveniently left off the church website. Quite questionable origins don''t you think?
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by chitown639 January 15, 2008 4:34 PM EST
he Church does not spell out hatred of whites - it is clothed in a hatred of Jews and support for Muslim ideals. Can you see that with your blinders on?
Posted by cptdeuce

(((cptdeuce)))

Oh, I see!!! So you say that the trinity united church of CHRIST supports Muslim ideas??? I cant find that either!!! Nor can I find anything about hating Jews on this website!!! Could you at least point me in the direction of where on this website there is a veiled hatred of Whites and Jews. All I is see is Christain values and nothing about Islam. Please help!!!
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by whitepicks2 January 15, 2008 4:32 PM EST
How about your church, cptdeuce? Can I judge your comment by that?
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by cptdeuce January 15, 2008 4:28 PM EST
Obama''s Questionable church and side-stepping voting records are just two examples of why Obama is not a leader - he may be charasmatic, but has questionable experience and direction.
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by whitepicks2 January 15, 2008 4:26 PM EST
The real issue here is the pattern developing from the Clintons. We''ve seen comments from surrogates, Bill Shaheen and Bob Johnson, attacking Obama''s character, and the unfortunate comment by Mario Cuomo. The campaign has every right to say those comments were merely mistakes, but the fact remains that the Clintons are, in part, responsible. Are they not?

There''s still time to get this out of the mud and make the campaign - on the Democratic side - something of which the entire country can be proud.
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by pepperp1 January 15, 2008 4:23 PM EST
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faced with a difficult vote in the Illinois legislature %u2014 to support a bill that would let some juveniles be tried as adults, a position that risked drawing fire from African-Americans, or to oppose it, possibly undermining his image as a tough-on-crime moderate. In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted %u201Cpresent,%u201D effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.

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by eddynewhope January 15, 2008 4:22 PM EST
There is no point engaging the Clinton supporters in a dialog here. Since they have no facts with which to attach Senator Obama, they turn to "Obama is a drug-dealer" or "Obama is a muslim who hates white people" or "Obama hates freedom and his middle name is Hussein". Then the Clintons and their moron minions cry foul when he answers them. American politics are absurd. If we end up with another Clinton in the White House, we will have gotten what we deserve: another 4-8 years of divisive, corrupt, intellectually dishonest leadership much like the last 20 years. I''m a lifelong Dem but I''d vote McCain over another Clinton after watching their despicable smear campaign of Senator Obama.
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by cptdeuce January 15, 2008 4:14 PM EST
Please show me the ''''we hate whites'''' section you were talking about!!! Posted by chitown639 at 01:10 PM : Jan 15, 2008
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The Church does not spell out hatred of whites - it is clothed in a hatred of Jews and support for Muslim ideals. Can you see that with your blinders on?
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by chitown639 January 15, 2008 4:10 PM EST
I am not predjuced
I will not vote someone who is!
Obama & his wife & his church are racial prejudice against all whites posted by mocaleo

(((Mocaleo)))

Im on the chruches website, but I still cant find where it say ''no whites allowed''. Please help. The only thing I do see is a chruch with a vision to celebrate the african american heritage and to uplift the community through Christ, from the profound abyss of despair and poverty to the majestic hills of hope and prosperity. But, nothing about hating whites. Please show me the ''we hate whites'' section you were talking about!!!
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by vickyt5 January 15, 2008 4:07 PM EST
Obama''s success is the only way for republicans to have chance to win. That why they put all dirt on Hillary repeating their attacks. I am sure Hillary is our hope for better future.
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