Comments on: Can A Photo ID Be Required To Vote?

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[realpatriot1]

chicnlittle,

We aren''t paranoid or stupid we just listened to Monica goodling''s sworn testimony.

[gaye5]

Here in OZ we have had so much vote rigging go on that MP''s have been able to take over marginal seats because of it... When the right winged state governments called for ID at voting time the left set up such a massive campaign against it, they said that it was big brother and unconstitutional etc and how dare the government not trust the people etc, so the right didnt bring it in and the left got into government. But it was discovered that some left MP''s had indeed been involved in vote rigging, their own of course so nothing much was done about it, oh sorry one MP was kicked out, but they had won the seat and it stayed left and because they were now in government nothing could be done about it. then that same MP became the campaign manager for the federal opposition leader , like putting a kid in a candy shop eh.. now he is the right hand man to our state premier.

[sgtrds]

ALL the real fraud, would happen regardless of photo-ids.

Posted by ideality at 04:44 PM : Dec 26, 2007

Requiring a photo ID can result in voter suppression such as a form that was used in predominately black districts in Ohio in the 2004. In suburban and predominately white areas there were many voting machines, while in minority areas there were only 2 or 3 machines available. The goal was to suppress the minority vote by creating long waiting times making it impossible for many people to cast their ballots. It''s an all too common trick. Other tricks used in 2004 were sending some people from precinct to precinct instead of telling them their correct polling place, removing voters from voting rolls as felons, even though they had no record and even sending out letters claiming the election day was actually moved to the next day or week. Fraud is just a part, though a significant one, of the republicans over all strategy for stealing close elections.

[gunownerdan]

"It''s not who votes that counts. It''s who counts the votes."
-- Joseph Stalin

[ideality-2009]

Photo-IDs can not fix the major causes of fraud.

1 - Fraud by the judges. When all the voting-judges are really part of the same political party. They can ignore the photo-id if they want to.

2 - Fraud by rigged machines.

3 - Fraud by the vote-counting at the end of the voting day.

In fact, I am hardpressed to think of any type of vote fraud that would be stopped by photo-ids.

ALL the real fraud, would happen regardless of photo-ids.

[sgtrds]

Photo ID--finger prints--giving up your first born--what does it matter if you have the right Justice department or "fixed" voting machines to get you in office?

Posted by liberalme at 04:22 PM : Dec 26, 2007

In Bush''s case it was first having a republican supreme court put him into office and fixed voting machines and fraud in Ohio that got him re-elected.

[ideality-2009]

Are they going to require photo-id for absentee ballots?

How would that work?

[ideality-2009]

There is no evidence that there is major fraud today, that is done by anybody that would be fixed by requiring photo-ids.

Massive fraud can NOT be done by individual voters.
It can be done either by the judges (voting for dead people and the like, like Chicago used to have); or by the vote counters. Not by individual voters.

In fact, it''s very hard to commit fraud even without an ID.

The reason is that you have to be pre-registered to vote. There is a voter-registration list.

What would somebody do? Claim that they were someone on the voter registration list? Extremely unlikely.
Surely not on a systemic basis.

[Krazcarl]

Who cares with the host idiots thier is no seance to vote just hide and hope they go away.

[Krazcarl]

Who cares with the host idiots thier is no seance to vote just hide and hope they go away.

[chicnlittle]

Photo ID--finger prints--giving up your first born--what does it matter if you have the right Justice department or "fixed" voting machines to get you in office?



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Posted by liberalme at 04:22 PM : Dec 26, 2007
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Man, you really need to move on.

[liberalme]

Photo ID--finger prints--giving up your first born--what does it matter if you have the right Justice department or "fixed" voting machines to get you in office?

[chicnlittle]

Democrats are not opposed if it''''s free and if all polling places spend the same amount of time checking the ID. Otherwise voters in rich white republican districts will not be asked in order to get as many of their votes in as possible, while in poorer more Democratic districts they''''ll spend 20 mins examining each ID card to make the lines longer and suppress the vote.

Why are republicans so addicted to dirty voting tricks?



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Posted by SgtRDS at 03:51 PM : Dec 26, 2007

Really now, you can''t believe that, do you? Really, do you? Are you that paranoid? Or stupid?

[gunownerdan]

I bet when we are forced to get our national ID cards, there will be a card reader on every voting machine.

[sgtrds]

A picture ID would be a great way to prevent voter fraud.

Make the ID card free

Why are Democrats against stopping potential voter fraud???

Posted by skykk at 03:44 PM : Dec 26, 2007

Democrats are not opposed if it''s free and if all polling places spend the same amount of time checking the ID. Otherwise voters in rich white republican districts will not be asked in order to get as many of their votes in as possible, while in poorer more Democratic districts they''ll spend 20 mins examining each ID card to make the lines longer and suppress the vote.

Why are republicans so addicted to dirty voting tricks?

[michellem99-2009]

The only people that is allowed to vote are Americans. Not ILLEGALS AS THEY THAT NO RIGHTS. We the people ,for the people by the people means American people..

[grimkirk]

The right to vote in this country is one of our most sacred privileges. It comes to us at the cost of many lives, both American and not, female and not, white and not. Consequently, it is a privilege granted only to those who are entitled to it, and that entitlement is bestowed through citizenship alone. Therefore, the burden of proving one''s citizenship falls equally upon all who wish to claim their due rights.

I agree that the ability to obtain proof of one''s citizenship should not be an economic burden, but should be each state''s service to its citizens. Or perhaps federalize it, and then delegate such service to the U.S. Library of Congress, subsequently making the information available via the Freedom of Information Act. This effectively ''levels'' the playing field for all who require the information.

And before anyone claims that the economically displaced remain disadvantaged under such a system, there are agencies which exist to assist the homeless and disadvantaged with making such requests of state and federal service agencies for receiving due benefits, including records and documentation.

[blazercoach1]

Who pays for the card? WE DO. We pay for the bureauocracy that issues registration cards....I''d gladly pay an extra dollar or two to have a picture on the card.

I can''t figure this out.....Dems/Libs want to issue ID cards to illegal aliens, but they don''t think their own LEGAL constituents are responsible/intelligent enough to show up to vote with an ID? Where is the consistency in this?

How can ANY American be against a measure to fight voter fraud? Could it be that a certain party tends to benefit from the vote of non-existant and/or dead people whose ID can''t be verified?

It''s all to plain what''s going on here folks: Issue IDs for illegals...so that when they become legal, they''ll vote for us. DON''T issue IDs for the dead/non-existant because we want their vote to continue to count for us! Every vote counts and count every vote!--The Democrat Mantra during the Florida recount.

[hwy71so]

Hwy71So

Good idea, but who pays for the card??

Posted by thgdriver at 01:59 PM : Dec 26, 2007

Take it out of congress''s paycheck. They''d never notice the difference. lol

[tejasdemo]

Lol. You cant control the border at all and now you wanna try and administer ID cards ? Yea, right.

And, for everybody concerned about the money it costs I have one word for ya...Iraq.