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Doubts Raised On Attorney General Nomination Following Tortured Testimony
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- Someone said, "The whole issue could be settled simply if Congress outlawed the practice in very specific terms, but they don''t seem to want to do so."
NOT SO. The democrats have not been able to pass ANY legislation that they wanted to pass. The repugs threaten to filibuster, and Bush threatens to veto (or actually vetoes, if a bill gets that far).
There is NO WAY that Bush and his cronies are going to allow congress to outlaw their sick, evil game of torture.
And torture is USELESS. It DOES NOT work. All you get out of a person through torture is whatever he thinks you want to hear. If he doesn''t know what you want, you get random garbage. If he knows what you want to hear, he''ll tell you something close, but not necessarily truthful, in the attempt to get you to stop torturing him. We can obtain NO USEFUL INFORMATION through torture.
Waterbording is torture. Bush says, "We don''t torture." Bush is a LIAR.
The torture the US has inflicted on people at Abu Ghraib, at Guantanamo, and in secret prisons throughout the world, is A WAR CRIME. Bush and Cheney and their cohorts are WAR CRIMINALS. Under US and International Law, the punishment for those war crimes, because the torture led to death in some cases, is THE DEATH PENALTY.
This once great country has sunk to the very depths of depravity due to the deranged madmen at the top and the many cowardly fo/ols who support him and his mission to eliminate our rights and freedoms and to destroy our democracy. - Reply to this comment
- Well, it seems clear that a vote to confirm Mukasey is an endorsement of torture as a law enforcement interrogation tool.
It seems that Republicans and Democrats together have sunk America into a pit of vile depravity.
Too bad. - Reply to this comment
- We have sunk to their level. How can we purport to have the moral upperhand when we, like the terrorists, have decided that the ends justifies the means? How can we persuade the global community to stand behind us when we are willing to act as savagely as the terrorists? How can we protect our own from torture? It''s time for this country to grow up, and to have the courage to be the world leader that it once was, instead of cowering like frightened little children terrified of their own shadow. Bush called the terrorists cowards, but I frankly don''t see how we are any less cowardly when we act so desperately as to resort to torture. I thought we were better than them, but the Bush administration seems determined to prove to the world that we are not.
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- Torture used to be Un-American.
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- If the internationally accepted legal definition of torture is the intentional infliction of injury, degradation and humiliation attended by the enjoyment of suffering, then the question to ask is: does waterboarding meet that definition? Do Mukasey and the Senators accept the same legal definition?
The whole issue could be settled simply if Congress outlawed the practice in very specific terms, but they don''t seem to want to do so. There isn''t even a bill pending that has wide support or is being pushed as a priority (or perhaps I just haven''t heard about such a bill). Maybe the Congress wants the technique to be available in extreme cases; they could write that proviso into the law. Right now it''s just jabbering over the AG nominee, not serious work on a law to forbid or strictly limit waterboarding or other such practices. - Reply to this comment
- sftoad, among other Left Nazi hyenas, is calmly waiting along with the rest of the social detrimus of San Francisco for Osama, or his Oakland Black Muslim buddies, to either nuke or drop a biological device on the city. Posted by SendReidPelo at 11:19 PM : Oct 27, 2007
Real sound logic there, sh** for brains. If you don''t support torture, you support the terrorists! LOL! You conservatives are such simpletons that I wonder why I bother, but here goes: I don''t support torture because it is morally reprehensible and should never be condoned. If we do it, we are quite simply in no position to insist that others not do it to our own soldiers when they are captured. How would you feel if your father, your brother or your son was being tortured by an enemy? How would you feel if you were mistaken for a terrorist and our government was torturing you for information you could not give them? I fear for the future of civilization when I realize how many inhumane and ignorant scumbags like you exist. - Reply to this comment
- "Is Waterboarding Torture?"
In 1947, the U.S. Called It a War Crime; in 1968, It Reportedly Caused an Investigation. The United States has long considered waterboarding to be torture and a war crime. As early as 1901, a US court martial convicted Major Edwin Glenn of subjecting a suspected insurgent in the Philippines to the %u201Cwater cure.%u201D After World War II, U.S. military commissions successfully prosecuted as war criminals several Japanese soldiers who subjected American prisoners to waterboarding. A U.S. army officer was court martialed in February 1968 for helping to waterboard a prisoner in Vietnam.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/04/AR2006100402005.html - Reply to this comment
- Dr. Paul must either be the second coming of Christ (i mean Reagan) or... Paid Ron Paul staff have infiltrated this blog....
Ron Paul needs to leave the GOP and start an independent campaign, Period! He''''s too good for the GOP. All of you posting on this site who work for him, please make that clear to him when you talk to him tomorrow! - Reply to this comment
- "Ron Paul needs to leave the GOP"
Say what!? Dr. Paul has not abandoned Republican party values, the Republican part has abandoned Republican party values.
Any true Republicans left in this party are gasping in horror at the rush to conflict in Iraq that has wasted over a trillion dollars thus far and the free spending ways of the pseudo-Republican lead Congress that has ballooned the deficit 56% in just 6 1/2 years. - Reply to this comment
- Water boarding as been defined as torture by the US millitary for over a century. There is no question America under President Bush and a Republican lead Congress has given up the high ground. Bush with his neo.con pals allied with the corporate fascist elite find the only the low road acceptable because their truck of lies can not possible make it up the hill to follow the high road. They have long ago abandoned the righteous path for the US of protecting liberty, freedoms and creating lasting peace.
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- Well, poop? You got awfully quiet there...
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- MUKASEY; IS MUM ON THE SUBJECT AT THE ADMINISTRATIONS ORDERS.
OF COURSE THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL STATE HIS OPINION FOR HIM AT A PRESS CONFERENCE, AT AN UNKNOWN SITE, AND UNKNOWN TIME. QUESTIONS AND ANSWER SESSION WILL BE AFTER THE STATEMENT. ALL NEWS MEDIA AND MAJOR NETWORKS WILL NOT BE INVITED.
STAY THE COURSE........ - Reply to this comment
- If he can''t or won''t answer this question he has no right to be AG.
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- rowand:
"unborn child" is a pro-life propaganda term... - Reply to this comment
- How many people have drowned from waterboarding?
Posted by jowand
How would any one know, if it is done in secret, then denied by the liars who authorize it? - Reply to this comment
- Posted by poopusbuttus
My answer to your question is that, as a "Black" man, if I condone such, then I have only myself to blame when the racists turn their newfound "toy" on me and mine.
But of course you would also be for that.... - Reply to this comment
- There is no such thing as an unborn child. It is not a child until it''''s born. Up until that point it''''s a fetus.
The definition of child is: "a young person especially between infancy and youth".
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 07:48 AM : Oct 28, 2007
It''s UNBORN CHILD not a child, you''re playing ju-jitsu with the English language. You have fallen for the baby killers propoganda routine. - Reply to this comment
- Simple enough, waterboard him for a coupe of hours and let him form an opinion.
Posted by omega39 at 07:26 AM : Oct 28, 2007
Excellent suggestion.
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 07:43 AM : Oct 28, 2007
How many people have drowned from waterboarding? - Reply to this comment
- What the hell do you people care if we torture anyway? Huh? I mean, why do you even care?
And please, dont come back at me with the lame A$$ excuse of we have to show the world that we do not torture because we dont want our troops tortured. That''s a lame excuse and it doesnt work. - Reply to this comment
- Seems like Dr. Paul is the second coming or... Paid Ron Paul staff have infiltrated this blog....
Ron Paul needs to leave the GOP and start an independent campaign, Period! He''s too good for the GOP. All of you posting on this site who work for him, please make that clear to him when you talk to him tomorrow! - Reply to this comment
