Comments on: Is Waterboarding Torture? Mukasey Is Mum

Doubts Raised On Attorney General Nomination Following Tortured Testimony

[jowand]

How many drownees have we had from waterboarding?

[jowand]

You then have to rehabilitate, pay reparations, restore sanity, as well as personal loss, then charge his kidnappers and torturers, and whoever gave the orders with the appropriate crimes.

Like I said, it will never happen, even under Dr. Paul.

Posted by brianbwb at 02:39 AM : Oct 29, 2007

Does Ron Paul''s "Puke and Choke" restaurant have anything on their menu besieds SPAM and SPAM leftovers. Ron Paul is clueless about Islamic terrorism and you are just being a KOOL aid carrier for him.

[ioweign]

What the hell do you people care if we torture anyway? Huh? I mean, why do you even care?

And please, dont come back at me with the lame A$$ excuse of we have to show the world that we do not torture because we dont want our troops tortured. That''''s a lame excuse and it doesnt work.


Posted by poopusbuttus at 09:24 AM : Oct 28, 2007

Lame excuse and doesn''t work - How would you know !

Have you ever traveled outside the United States ?

Your concern for your fellow citizens really shows - is it a prerequisite to joining the Republican Party and family values !

[brianbwb-2009]

"He said he would bring them to detainment facilities on U.S. soil where they would be entitled to an attorney and to their day in court--American Justice. Posted by thefarrier"

Never happen, here is why;

Most of the "detainees" were nothing more than college students, educated enough to understand the legal and political situation, and non combatant heads of households who did not agree with the bombing of their neighborhoods. In most cases, they were arrested because a neighbor accused them, using the US military to settle some personal score. Many others were rounded up by over reacting Keystone Kops types who panic at the sound of a backfiring auto. Bottom line is most of the cases would be thrown out for lack of evidence.

What then? You have former civilians, who simply disagreed, who were taken, tortured, and held for years. These people would likely be seething with rage at their tormentors now pretending to respect law, and "granting" them freedom. (I would not blame them for their anger).

You then have to rehabilitate, pay reparations, restore sanity, as well as personal loss, then charge his kidnappers and torturers, and whoever gave the orders with the appropriate crimes.

Like I said, it will never happen, even under Dr. Paul.

[usaprophet]

Ron Paul does not support secret offshore prisons like the one in Guantanamo, where our government tortures prisoners, who have no right to redress of grievance, or to writ of habeus corpus. Ron Paul promises he will close these "illegal prisons" down. He wouldn''t necessarily just release the prisoners either. He said he would bring them to detainment facilities on U.S. soil where they would be entitled to an attorney and to their day in court--American Justice. Others agree with Paul. "Essentially, we have shaken the belief that the world had in America''s justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like a military commission," former U.S. Secretary of State, Colin Powell recently said. "What can I do about it," you ask? Support the 2008 candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul for President. I believe he''s our only hope to restore peace, prosperity and freedom in this country. Throw-out the New World Order Fascists and their Socialist comrades in crime. Both groups consider themselves above the Law. Vote for a REAL American who will restore peace, prosperity and freedom to this country. Presidential candidates with the integrity and bearing the positive message of Dr. Paul only come around only once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky. The cause of freedom is too important to let anything stand in the way of our participation in this 21st Century political revolution. Don''t let the opportunity to support Dr. Paul slip by.

[usaprophet]

I support Ron Paul and his non-interventionist foreign policy. Hitlery wants to continue our illegal police action in Iraq until at least 2013, and she does not rule out a preemptive (nuclear) first strike against Iran. Ron Paul voted against the the (undeclared) war in Iraq, which was sold to us with lies. The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies--the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them. This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives and almost a trillion dollars. We must have new leadership in the White House to ensure this never happens again. Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations. Today, we have 750 foreign bases and troops in 130 countries. We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America. And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women. We can continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, or we can refocus on securing our borders against illegal immigrants and bring the troops home. No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution. Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations. Too often, we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised. Then, we become despised.

[usaprophet]

Most Americans just don''t seem to care that our country, along with the Constitutional upon which it was founded, is being flushed-down the NWO toilet by our nations ruling elite. Most of Congress and the President warn and insite fear in the sheeple about the prospect of terrorism, while they at the same time fund and conduct illegal wars overseas that do nothing but encite the terrorism which they say their new Draconian Laws like the Patriot Act and The Real ID Act are passed to protect us from. Think about it. What would you do, if someone invaded the U.S. for no reason, and took over. You''d be mad as hell, and you''d be making trips to their country in order to give a little payback. Wake up America! It''s not about protecting you from terrorism, or saving our planet from Global Warming, or any of that fear-mongering garbage the tube feeds you 24/7. It''s about feeding the military industrial complex and facilitating the ruling elite''s ability to ratchet-down control over the American people, placing them into a total control grid where they can surveille, track and control everywhere you go and everything you do. It''s the groundwork for totalitarianism. I weep for my country, and for those who are so distracted, dumbed-down, or outright brainwashed by mainstream media, which endlessly regurgitates scientifically-crafted streams of information aimed at keeping their eyes closed to the realities of the world around them, that they fail to recognize this. Go Ron Paul!.

[usaprophet]

Ron Paul does not support secret offshore prisons like the one in Guantanamo, where our government tortures prisoners, who have no right to redress of grievance, or to writ of habeus corpus. Ron Paul promises he will close these "illegal prisons" down. He wouldn''t necessarily just release the prisoners either. He said he would bring them to detainment facilities on U.S. soil where they would be entitled to an attorney and to their day in court--American Justice. Others agree with Paul. "Essentially, we have shaken the belief that the world had in America''s justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like a military commission," former U.S. Secretary of State, Colin Powell recently said. "What can I do about it," you ask? Support the 2008 candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul for President. I believe he''s our only hope to restore peace, prosperity and freedom in this country. Throw-out the New World Order Fascists and their Socialist comrades in crime. Both groups consider themselves above the Law. Vote for a REAL American who will restore peace, prosperity and freedom to this country. Presidential candidates with the integrity and bearing the positive message of Dr. Paul only come around only once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky. The cause of freedom is too important to let anything stand in the way of our participation in this 21st Century political revolution. Don''t let the opportunity to support Dr. Paul slip by.

[incog-nito]

If Mukasey can''t answer because he''s not familiar with waterboarding, why doesn''t he simply look it up or ask someone? It doesn''t take that long to find out what it is. It''s been around since the Spanish Inquisition, so this is not exactly rocket science. Bottom line: The guy''s obviously doing a poor job of waffling, and we don''t need another waffling, dishonest AG.

[agnessmash]

Is waterboarding torture? DUH.

[feelfree1]

Re: "Is Waterboarding Torture? Mukasey Is Mum"

If we strapped him to a board and held him underwater until he was near-drowning, I''ll bet that we could get an answer out of him...

[usaprophet]

At a meet-the-candidate house party in New Hampshire, students representing a group called Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth asked Paul whether he believed the official investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks was credible. "I never automatically trust anything the government does when they do an investigation," Paul replied, "because too often I think there%u2019s an area that the government covered up, whether it%u2019s the Kennedy assassination or whatever." The exchange was videotaped and ricocheted around the Internet for a while. But Paul%u2019s patience with the Truthers, as they call themselves, does not make him one himself. "Even at the time it happened, I believe the information was fairly clear that Al Qaeda was involved," he recently said.

[usaprophet]

Most Americans just don''t seem to care that our country, along with the Constitutional principles upon which it was founded, are being flushed-down the toilet by our nations ruling elite. While most of Congress and the President warn and insite fear in the sheeple about the prospect of terrorism, they at the same time fund and conduct illegal wars overseas which do nothing but encite the terrorism they say their new Draconian Laws like the Patriot Act and The Real ID Act are here to protect us from. Think about it. What would you do, if someone invaded the U.S. for no reason, and took over. You''d be mad as hell, and you''d be making trips to their country in order to give a little payback. Wake up America! It''s not about protecting you from terrorism, or saving our planet from Global Warming, or any of that fear-mongering garbage the tube feeds you 24/7. It''s about feeding the military industrial complex and facilitating the ruling elite''s ability to ratchet-down control over the American people, placing them into a total control grid where they can surveille, track and monitor (control) everywhere we go and everything we do. It''s the groundwork for totalitarianism. I weep for my country, and for those who are so distracted, dumbed-down, or outright brainwashed by mainstream media, which endlessly regurgitates scientifically-crafted streams of information aimed at keeping their eyes closed to the realities of the world around them, that they fail to recognize this. Go Ron Paul!.

[burneb]

Torture is wrong under any pretext, whether anyone else does it or not, whether any authority legalizes or rationalizes it or not. What I saw in Vietnam was enough to be sure of this. It is not just a slippery slope. It is a steep cliff into an abyss.

If Mukasey does not know this, and get willing to say it firmly and publicly, he is not fit to hold any high office in the United States of America.

[usaprophet]

Ron Paul does not support secret offshore prisons like the one in Guantanamo, where our government tortures prisoners, who have no right to redress of grievance, or to writ of habeus corpus. Ron Paul promises he will close these "illegal prisons" down. He wouldn''t necessarily just release the prisoners either. He said he would bring them to detainment facilities on U.S. soil where they would be entitled to an attorney and to their day in court--American Justice. Others agree with Paul. "Essentially, we have shaken the belief that the world had in America''s justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like a military commission," former U.S. Secretary of State, Colin Powell recently said. "What can I do about it," you ask? Support the 2008 candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul for President. I believe he''s our only hope to restore peace, prosperity and freedom in this country. Throw-out the New World Order Neocons and their Socialist comrades in crime. Both groups consider themselves above the Law. Vote for a REAL American who will restore peace, prosperity and freedom to this country. Presidential candidates with the integrity and bearing the positive message of Dr. Paul only come around only once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky. The cause of freedom is too important to let anything stand in the way of our participation in this 21st Century political revolution. Don''t let the opportunity to support Dr. Paul slip by.

[okinup]

In WW2 they didn''t torture. They played chess.

[s1ckd09]

YES, Waterboarding IS Torture, YES, Bush and Cheney ARE War Criminals, YES, 9/11 WAS an inside job, and YES, nothing will change if Hillary or any of the other MSM Darling, Criminal Fascist Elites are elected President.
Wake up America, you are being led down the path to a Fascist One World Government, where only those at the top have any Freedom, and the rest are only slaves.
Vote Out ALL Incumbents from BOTH Parties.
RON PAUL for President

Posted by veteran71 at 02:33 PM : Oct 28, 2007

Your post loses all credibility when you say 9/11 was an inside job. Get off of it already. You seem to be one of those people that ignore the laws of reality.

[walt1944-2009]

"Bagdad" John McCain has stated that he is witholding judgement on Mukasey until he is more specific on torture. Apparently, all this talk of torture is bringing back some "memories" for Bagdad John who said on This Week that our country should be held up to a higher standard. If we torture, we are no better than the "terrrrrorist" we are supposed to be fighting. All those who like the idea of torture, should try it sometime! How about marching down to your local recruiter, signing up, and getting shipped to Iraq so you can get captured and see what torturing is all about, before they behead you!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!

[fibonacci_]

I think anytime you have to question whether something is torture or not, it probably is.

[micheleisfre]

Waterboarding NOT torture?
Why don''t all you people who say it isn''t line up for a good waterboarding, and see if you still feel it''s not torture.
You''ll change your mind just before you black-out from your lungs filling with water.

Then, you can tell me all about how waterboarding isn''t torture.

What? You don''t want to be waterboarded? I wonder why ...