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Washington Post: Republican Hopeful Looks To Step Into The Spotlight

[l8c6]

l8c6 is disinformation personified

Posted by bohemianowl

I can see you with you hands over your ears and your pig tails flying yelling, "I''m not listening"

[l8c6]

chrisconlin

Alright it has come down to the typical petty Rush Limbaugh nit picky nasty cr*ap of Ann Coulter. You are stuck on Ron Paul. I get it. He is the same of the same that has been eroding this nation. I''ve probably been around longer and can see how this process has gone down. Ron Paul is a republican and that party of neo cons has been attacking the "liberal" etc. for 2.5 decades. That party and the neo cons have seduced many people into half truths that will eventually take this nation back the the origins of its people which is old european world order.

[jn122736]

Chrisconlin;
My question was not how he will NOT repay the national debt, but How WILL he repay it.

BTW, If the Federal Reserve %u201Cnotes%u201D you refer to, be the currency I have in my wallet or the balance in my bank accounts, the answer to your question is simple, we repay the debt with the same %u201Cnotes%u201D that we borrowed in the first place.
The same %u201Cnotes%u201D we have been receiving/giving in every transaction we%u2019ve made for almost a century. I fail to see the relevance of your question.

[chrisconlin]

I might have also included this comment found in the same post as further clearifying evidence of your position :"His shrinking government ideology..." (is the problem)

[chrisconlin]

"...The reality is government will alway be huge so get over it...."
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- I believe this pretty much sums up your positions. You need to look for someone who will continue to increase the size of government then. Hillary or any other big government canidate should suit you just fine. No wonder why you have not been able to decide who to vote for - there are so many that believe in the core principle that THAT "THAT GOVERNMENT WHICH GOVERNS (MORE) GOVERNS BEST." This was not the govt. that Thomas Paine advocated for or most of the other Founders of this nation.

[l8c6]

l8c6 is disinformation personified

Posted by bohemianowl

You just don''t want to think out of the box you are in. I''d like to believe a great leader will come to and fix the mess but I don''t believe Ron Paul is it. The reality is there are things we agree on but I believe some of your ideals do not take into account the reality and fall short of the big picture.

[l8c6]

chrisconlin

His shrinking government ideology. Government has shrunk in the areas of it working for the working middle class of this nation, yes indeed it has. It most certainly has. The reality is government will alway be huge so get over it. It was huge during the Roman empire, it was huge during the Spanish and British empires and it will remain huge here. But Ron Paul and the neo cons have spoke of wanting shrinking government that is double speak for a government representative not of "We the people" but rather the largest wealthiest shareholders in america.

[chrisconlin]

"Ron Paul and you are for the constitution and you have a problem with "We the People"?..."
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- I never said that. "We the People" ARE ALSO "We the Consumer" IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY (which was the CONTEXT of my post that the remark was found in). No contradiction.

[bohemianowl]

l8c6 is disinformation personified

[l8c6]

bohemianowl

You act as though Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air. He has been a republican, the host of the neo con movement for decades. Sheeze, this is like a group of cult followers.

[chrisconlin]

"While Ron Paul may not be outwardly for big corporate rule and the war, HIS SHRINKING GOVERNMENT has led to the lack of oversight that actually caused this mess..."
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- read the comment above again, I enlarged what I felt were the key words in the comment. Now tell me, HAS GOVERNMENT BEEN SHRINKING the last couple of decades??

[l8c6]

chrisconlin

Ron Paul and you are for the constitution and you have a problem with "We the People"? Do YOU see a contradiction.

I''m glad I''ve not been hoed off by the consumer society.

[chrisconlin]

not know HOW a real free market economy operates AND WHY
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-I apologize for the typo in the previous post.

[bohemianowl]

l8c6 You are also fear mongering by insinuating the country will be in Anarchy under Ron Paul.

The Corporations have such huge influence NOW with their buying power, and the *** we get from china is a result of Walmart style exploitation.

Go ahead and spin some tale, but I can see you are a doubletalking blameshifter.

Ron Paul is willing to debate Head to head with any candidate.

Getting out of our foreign entanglements will solve many financial problems here at home. The War on Terror is a phony... designed to scare people into giving up their rights for "security"

[l8c6]

- Do you see the contradiction?

Posted by chrisconlin

No, unless you thought I meant something I didn''t when I wrote we could learn from Bush. If so, what I meant is we can learn from the experience of Bush how threatened we are as a people by aggressiveness on the part of Neo Cons to overthrow representative government. Those that have backed Bush and the libertarian neo con ideology want to rule through a diminished representative democracy and an unaccountable privatized multinational corporate orgy. Blackwater is one example.

While Ron Paul may not be outwardly for big corporate rule and the war, his shrinking government has led to the lack of oversight that actually caused this mess. I do have the years to have observed the transition of this country in my life time. Long supporters of Reagan and republicans are more likely to vote for Ron Paul and it''s this ideological base that led to the mess.

For all the critics ...this is not a user friendly arena. Password errors when logged on etc.

[chrisconlin]

Do you mean no govt. interference in the free market by way of increased regulations, ect...? ---chrisconlin
yes, we the people not as individuals but we the people do have some influence over setting the rules of the game as we the people establish through representation rules for all functioning of civil society.
Otherwise anti-social unscrupulous marketers can pull a nasty and only after a few deaths maybe slow over time will the consumer be able to react.
I cannot believe the simplistic thinking on the part of some to think that with "their hard earned money" they will determine what companies succeed..."
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- I seriously suggest that you take the time to read Mises, Rothbard, and other Austrian economic writers. You above comments again, contradict themselves and shows that you do not know what a real free market economy operates AND WHY. Change "We the People" to We THE CONSUMER. Yes, it is actually that "simple". :) A companies LIFE BLOOD = CASH. Tell me, where does the cash COME FROM? How does a company RECIEVE MORE CASH THAN OTHER COMPETITORS? Answer this last question correctly and I hope you will begin to see how "unscrupulous" actions by a company will ACTUALLY HURT IT FASTER in a true free market than a heavily regualted one.

[chrisconlin]

"...How will he pay off the national debt..."
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Not with federal reserve NOTES. :) A note is representative of a DEBT OBLIGATION (like a house note, ect...). Question, HOW DOES ONE PAY A DEBT WITH SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTS A DEBT??? Think about it for a moment. :)

[l8c6]

Do you mean no govt. interference in the free market by way of increased regulations, ect...? ---chrisconlin

yes, we the people not as individuals but we the people do have some influence over setting the rules of the game as we the people establish through representation rules for all functioning of civil society.

Otherwise anti-social unscrupulous marketers can pull a nasty and only after a few deaths maybe slow over time will the consumer be able to react.

I cannot believe the simplistic thinking on the part of some to think that with "their hard earned money" they will determine what companies succeed. Consumer response is only a part of the free market it''s not the big picture. In such a world you propose, why have traffic lights? That would be government influence. The size of you Humvee will determine who gets through the intersection first.

Why do you think China has been able send toxic *** over recently? Because we the people are losing a system that represents are collective interests. So you think it''s o.k. for a few people to die before the consumer catches on?

[bohemianowl]

l8c6 you are sooo wrong. The country was started on its course trensferring wealth to the very wealthy in 1913 with the "birth" of the privately owned Federal Reserve.

The globalist elites are the problem. They must destroy the middle class to insure their tyranny.

People like you who defend them and blameshift are the problem.

Your argument holds no water. You have something to lose with freedom for people and Ron Paul winning.

[chrisconlin]

"...his principles are flawed in that they have provided a loophole for multinational anti-social corporate abuse."
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-First they are not "his" principles. Second, it is not the result of a free market economy that has enabled any loop hole but rather the principles of protectionism and merchantilism that have aloud this. See my comments on the free market in previous posts for more on this.