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by dzemog1 November 13, 2008 8:02 PM EST
Hillary would''ve won, but I don''t think it would''ve been by the same large margin. I don''t think other posters here are right that the youth and Latino vote wouldn''t have shown up. I think they would have and in the same numbers. I also think the African American vote would''ve come back, although Bill Clinton would''ve had a little ground to make up first. The biggest differential with Hillary is the effect she would likely have had on Republican voters. Like it or not, Hillary is reviled by most Republicans. They would''ve welcomed the oppty to come out in droves to vote against her, and that missing % of GOP voters that didn''t come for McCain vs Obama, might''ve shown in greater numbers. That said, the economy and the party trumped everything and the end result would''ve been the same. However, the expansion of the map that Obama achieved wouldn''t have happened and Hillary would''ve been left to count on the old standards of OH, PA and FL.
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by yleasure November 13, 2008 7:56 PM EST
There wouldn''''t have been as strong of youth and African-American turn out with Hillary on the ticket, so she probably would''''ve needed an extra few points to keep pace. It all would''''ve averaged out.


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Posted by erikdc

You guys really need to pull off your robes and slippers and STOP eating all those Cheetos.

Youth vote did not increase. Youth voter turnout in 2004 11%; Youth voter turnout in 2008 11%.
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by missstaceyg November 13, 2008 7:18 PM EST
I second the many posters who have basically said that the Republicans are welcome to keep every Hillary voter that voted for McCain. You would be of no service to the Democrats anymore, as you do not cherish our ideals, which are also Hillary''s ideals. Good luck will Palin whenever she runs, the Democrats will defeat her (and you) again.
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by mjchirill November 13, 2008 7:15 PM EST
Obama won and he won BIG!! Hillary''s campaign was chaos that''s why she lost. We certainly do not need a chaotic leader right now!
Barack was/is a better leader, more organised, more intelligent, and modern!
Get over Hillary''s loss and move on!
Think back..move forward..IT''s TIME!
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by liberalme November 13, 2008 7:03 PM EST
"Clinton may have won by more than Obama"?

Who cares? She didn''t win!!
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by werksdesign November 13, 2008 6:51 PM EST
Since polls are always all over the field, it depends which poll you read and want to believe.
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by blenvid November 13, 2008 6:49 PM EST
Who votes for Mccain and call themselves democrats? Screw you people.
We didnt need your vote and we wont need it in 2012. So go ahead and throw it away on Palin... LOL

Posted by yelhsalm

Yep, we got the message Yelhsalm.
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by yongamerica November 13, 2008 6:09 PM EST
Of the 16% who would have switched their vote from McCain to Clinton, how many of these votes were racially motivated?
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by floras-2009 November 13, 2008 6:04 PM EST
As a Democrat PUMA feminist who did vote for McCain, I might have voted for Obama after all if I''d known he planned to restore many of Bill Clinton''s cabinet -- particularly Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, who did a great job cleaning up after Bush Sr and managing a bailout plan for Mexido and elsewhere in the 90s. He''s being unfairly misquoted now, so I''ve put up a diary about him at http://clintondems.com/2008/11/restore-bill-clintons-secretary-of-the-treasury-larry-summers/
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by hawaiigirl6 November 13, 2008 6:00 PM EST
I have a problem with the math. Obama won approx. 53% - McCain approx. 46%, which adds to approx. 99%. Your exit poll numbers show Clinton with a lower percentage of 52% and McCain with a lower percentage also - 41%. Total is only 93%. What about the missing 6%? Wouldn''t have voted - would have voted for other candidates, what? Clinton wouldn''t have gotten as much of the vote as Obama but somehow her being in the race would have depressed McCain''s percentage? Doesn''t make sense to me.
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