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by LostInaFog November 13, 2008 9:18 PM EST
I think I''m missing something...

If Obama won by 53% to 46% and Hillary would have won (theoretically), by 52% to 41%, that means that her entry into the race over Obama would have pushed many more folks to vote 3rd party? Up from 1% to 7%. And only a small number of those were Obama voters?

I may be missing something here...
David
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by LostInaFog November 13, 2008 9:17 PM EST
I think I''m missing something...

If Obama won by 53% to 46% and Hillary would have won (theoretically), by 52% to 41%, that means that her entry into the race over Obama would have pushed many more folks to vote 3rd party? Up from 1% to 7%. And only a small number of those were Obama voters?

I may be missing something here...
David
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by brundage3 November 13, 2008 8:56 PM EST
How telling.

When a news story reports something one disagrees with, (smething contrary to a pre-concieved notion) and epithets fly. "Totally Bogus!" "This is total BS!" etc.

The venting is an attempt to feel better or superior or to hide a disappointment of some kind.

Good heavens!

Try just disagreeing. Give us you thoughts instead of these more child like "feelings" like "BOGUS!"
and "BS!"

But wait,,, If you did that,,, you would want to sign your name! Heaven forbid. Clever little handles make it easy to be shouting instead of thinking. BOGUS BS to me though!
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by david936 November 13, 2008 8:53 PM EST
Thank goodness for real votes. If we had gone with polling Hillary would have been the Democratic nominee. This is a silly poll.
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by notopennshut November 13, 2008 8:48 PM EST
Clinton might have lost to McCain. After all, those who turned out for Obama might not have shown up. So what''s the big deal?? Obama beat Clinton and he swept McCain. Enough of these sore losers rhetoric!!
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by jerrydenim November 13, 2008 8:43 PM EST
These numbers are totally bogus. It''s impossible to draw conclusions about a hypothetical McCain/Clinton match up from the electorate that showed up to decide the Obama/McCain contest.

First, the electorate that showed up for the actual election almost cetainly contained many young and African-American voters that would have stayed home in the make-believe Clinton/McCain matchup came out to vote simply due to enthusiasm generated by Obama''s prescense on the ticket.

Also this survey starts with the faulty assumption that many McCain voters would have voted for Hillary if given a chance but how many of the Barack Obama voters they''re assuming would have voted for Hillary would have instead voted McCain instead of Obama in a Clinton/McCain matchup? Hillary did have the highest negatives of anyone seriously persuing the Presidency if I''m not mistaken.

Last, Hillary never had to campaign against John McCain so there''s no way to tell how she would have fared in a head to head matchup after all of her dirty laundry was brought back up and voters were reminded why they had "Clinton fatigue" after the first Clinton White House.

Total B.S.
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by roz080450 November 13, 2008 8:42 PM EST
Zurdeee, that''s provided that you have anything in your wallet to hold on too. Bush has not left us with pocket change. I have more respect for the pure biggot! Just admit that it didn''t matter what Obama was saying you would not have voted for him any way. Because he''s Black! You and the rest of the old timers feel that way. But you know what? The young people spoke this election. Each year more and more of the old timers with that racist mentality are dying out and the young people have not adopted these negative views. What I pray for is that each election the dynamics change more and more. I would love to see a Hispanic, Asian, Jewish, Italian, President. I want the face of U.S. President to change more and more. This country is the home of many races.
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by jerrydenim November 13, 2008 8:40 PM EST
These numbers are totally bogus. It''s impossible to draw conclusions about a hypothetical McCain/Clinton match up from the electorate that showed up to decide the Obama/McCain contest.

First, the electorate that showed up for the actual election almost cetainly contained many young and African-American voters that would have stayed home in the make-believe Clinton/McCain matchup came out to vote simply due to enthusiasm generated by Obama''s prescense on the ticket.

Also this survey starts with the faulty assumption that many McCain voters would have voted for Hillary if given a chance but how many of the Barack Obama voters they''re assuming would have voted for Hillary would have instead voted McCain instead of Obama in a Clinton/McCain matchup? Hillary did have the highest negatives of anyone seriously persuing the Presidency if I''m not mistaken.

Last, Hillary never had to campaign against John McCain so there''s no way to tell how she would have fared in a head to head matchup after all of her dirty laundry was brought back up and voters were reminded why they had "Clinton fatigue" after the first Clinton White House.

Total B.S.
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by david936 November 13, 2008 8:40 PM EST
I don''t believe this poll. I''m certain that Hillary would have lost if she ran. John McCain would have ran as the change agent. This polling is flawed.
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by jerrydenim November 13, 2008 8:40 PM EST
These numbers are totally bogus. It''s impossible to draw conclusions about a hypothetical McCain/Clinton match up from the electorate that showed up to decide the Obama/McCain contest.

First, the electorate that showed up for the actual election almost cetainly contained many young and African-American voters that would have stayed home in the make-believe Clinton/McCain matchup came out to vote simply due to enthusiasm generated by Obama''s prescense on the ticket.

Also this survey starts with the faulty assumption that many McCain voters would have voted for Hillary if given a chance but how many of the Barack Obama voters they''re assuming would have voted for Hillary would have instead voted McCain instead of Obama in a Clinton/McCain matchup? Hillary did have the highest negatives of anyone seriously persuing the Presidency if I''m not mistaken.

Last, Hillary never had to campaign against John McCain so there''s no way to tell how she would have fared in a head to head matchup after all of her dirty laundry was brought back up and voters were reminded why they had "Clinton fatigue" after the first Clinton White House.

Total B.S.
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