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by caindependnt September 27, 2008 6:12 PM EDT
Correction:
RE: oneamerica6 1:15p.m. 9/27/08

apologies to jone775 (for my incorrect attribution)

Fact check: Look up the recent McCain/Palin rally where the campaign organizers not only took away signs that public individuals had made and brought to the rally -- the campaign passed out pro-M/P posters that they (the campaign organizers) had painted themselves to look "homemade."

Let''s see . . . where I come from that would be denial of free speech compounded with deception (an increasingly frequent strategy of the faltering M/P campaign). If you object to the former -- you have to be doubly disgusted by the latter.
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by caindependnt September 27, 2008 6:08 PM EDT
Re: jone775 1:26pm 9/27/08

Fact check: Look up the recent McCain/Palin rally where the campaign organizers not only took away signs that private individuals had made and brought to the rally -- the campaign passed out pro-M/P posters that they (the campaign organizers) had painted themselves to look "homemade."

Let''s see . . . where I come from that would be regulation of free speech compounded with deception (an increasingly frequent strategy of the faltering M/P campaign). If you object to the former -- you have to be doubly disgusted by the latter.
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by john0211 September 27, 2008 6:01 PM EDT
Bush, McCain can run. But they cant hide anymore.

What ever congress does to try and fix our stunning economic catastrophe needs to be done very carefully. Congress needs to take their time, and be sure of what they are doing. Whatever is done needs to be sharply focused at helping, and protecting the best interest of the ordinary Americans. In particular the vast American middle class. 700 billion dollars is a lot of the peoples money to spend to bail out a bunch of corrupt Bush loan sharks.

My fellow human beings, just as I warned you ahead of this catastrophic economic meltdown, I must now warn you that what is ahead has the potential to be even more catastrophic than what we are going through now. The worlds geopolitical landscape has been booby trapped by the Bush McCain administration and their republican allies in congress. These booby traps are poised to spring at any time.

Fortunately the Worlds Nations have been blessed with many excellent leaders (except the US) who have been careful, wise, strong, and self-restrained in dealing with the provocations, and antagonism''s of the Bush, McCain administration.

Barack Obama and the democrats are your best hope now. Tell your family, friends, and everyone you know to support them as best you can, and vote for them like your life, and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. Because it does. You will not survive 4 more years of Bush McCain.

JACK SMITH - WORKING CLASS...
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by mjcb2 September 27, 2008 5:59 PM EDT
McCain didn''t inspire much confidence to me with his social skills much less Foreign Affairs.

We all know he can''t stand Obama. However, if he doesn''t even have the courtesy/guts to give his "American" challenger his face when addresing him, what makes us think he will be any different when speaking with a Foreign leader or someone from the other side of the isle...especially one he doesn''t like.

Think he''ll promote bipartisan support if he''s ever in office...don''t think so!

Also, when is his party ever going to stop using military service members as a political shield to inspire public trust.

I seriously doubt that any candidate Democrat or Repulican would do anything that would severely impair our military members in harms way.

What McCain doesn''t tell the public is the bills his party has submitted in the past have had hidden agendas, with support for our troops on the tail end in an attempt to force conrgress members to pass or else.

Sadly, when the rest of congress don''t see things their way and oppose their hidden agendas, they cry foul. Now that''s a real shame.
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by atoh1 September 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT
The contrasts between both candidates could not have been clearer last night. McCain wants a spending freeze (this is a new notion in McCain''s position on budgetary policy) across the board, note, EXCEPT in the military, and in veteran benefits. Veteran benefits are without doubt necessary, but his statement certainly brings to question, why do other areas of the military require investment? Are we preparing for another war in the midst of our economic recovery. Obama too believes in cutting spending, and has even mentioned that he would have to phase out some of his more ambitious programs as a result of the bailout. To me, it is clear that McCain''s focus is in forcefully asserting American supremacy globally, while Obama is focused on domestic recovery. I think we just have to decide which is more important to us at this point.
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by obeight September 27, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
Who won the debate is such a lame question. I think the only way one of the candidates could have been declared a winner if the other had made a serious mistake. That cannot happen because all major US presidential candidates are very well trained for TV appearances.

So the voters have to go beyond the personality and rhetoric. Do you really believe that tax cuts are the solution to our malaise? 24 of the last 32 years a republican has been in the whitehouse. If the taxes could be cut any further, they would have been cut already. McCain is just repeating the rhetoric that is handlers are telling him to repeat.

We need a person who can energize our inner city neighborhoods, we need a person who can minimize the resources that we are wasting on the war, we need a president who can reduce the probability that a new enemy of America is created. We need a president who can energize all of us to join the army if there is a true threat to our security.

Now figure out who do we need. It does not matter who won or lost a 15 second sound bite.

Citizen
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by kopana September 27, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
Could some of the Pro-McSame voters, please put their racism for a moment aside for one day and think what is best for the country....Now the situation we are in was caused by republican philosophy gone haywire...from free markets to socialism where everyone owns the banks, the houses, oh please wake up and get smarter...Please put your color blind glasses on for just one day...Vote Smarter.... VOTE OBAMA!!!
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by jone775 September 27, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
Go Go Obama! You rock!

Obama/Biden 08!
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by rllm September 27, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
Redfred08, yes I perfer old and wise as well. But, McCain is an old fool which he made apparent in his war mongering talk during the debate. The man is a threat to the world.
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by rllm September 27, 2008 3:50 PM EDT
Anyone that wants to believe that McCain won that debate is in deninal and deluding themselves. First, the man stated numerous lies and tried to make points with lies. Something he and Palin are constantly doing. Second, in the first part of debate, he came across as lost. In the second part, he came across as a war monger and a man that refuses to accept the reality of the situation in the Middle East--much like his supporters.
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