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by libra127 June 25, 2008 3:22 PM EDT
When Hillary counts her 18 million votes, she counts Florida and Michigan and doesn''t count any for Obama. She doesn''t include the votes in several caucus states that voted heavily for Obama.

Posted by truthmatterz at 08:29 AM : Jun 25, 2008

Nope, not true. She counts all the caucus states, all the Florida votes (for both her and Obama), and the Michigan votes she won. The only votes not countable are the Michigan "uncommitted" votes. You can check out the numbers on realclearpolitics.com. She won the popular vote by a small margin.
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by jack3213 June 25, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
A "Dummocrat" isn''''t better -for the WhiteHouse than - a Republican, as some would think. Would you rather have someone who puts this country at risk, raise you taxes, makes you promises that can never be delivered, make you feel and look like foolish? That would happen with a LIBERAL. You are all fools for believing Obama. God help you.

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by toldyouso12 June 25, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
And for those of you who STILL don''''t think there was really sexism surrounding Hillary''''s

Posted by gaypastor at 03:26 AM : Jun 25, 2008


It''s not that people don''t think that there was sexism--it is that they don''t CARE that there was sexism. This is one of the hurdles that we women will have to jump to climb our own particular mountain to power. Just like African Americans "mountain" might be their skin color and perceptions others have about them--and Mormons have to fight religious bias and prejudices--almost every group that is not a WASP will have some stuff that they have to overcome--it could be class, race, religion, gender, sexual orientation driven--but here''s the thing--she did not climb over that hurdle--you can whine about it all day--but the hurdle will not move for your whining. HRC showed she was a fighter and she came very close to vaulting to the other side--because of her efforts--she may make it easier for the next woman to start to climb that same mountain from a higher starting point. On the other hand--her supporters make more stuff on any woman''s mountain as when women enter the race, their constituency may appear too emotional and vindictive to ever even let them make the attempt the down side of it all, is that HRC gained a lot--but her supporters have also cost her and her party a lot and many plan on upping the ante--that may push the idea of women in power even further back.
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by toldyouso12 June 25, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
Actually in re reading the article--it appears that Nancy Pelosi is saying --"****** happens deal with it" and is advising the HRC supporters to get over it. LOL
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by toldyouso12 June 25, 2008 1:33 PM EDT
It''s sort of hypocritical to take up for Hillary at this point. I am no HRC supporter. But Pelosi looks like an azz and will get no points for pointing this out now, when she failed to do so at the time it was happening. She is like the person standing in a mob watching a beating, then later decrying how shameful it all was--but when it counted--she just stood there and stared.

Shut up Pelosi--you making yourself look like a pandering hypocrite.
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by gocubs58 June 25, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
truthmatterz & jedi080808: It doesn''t matter how many times you tell TruUSA that when you actually count ALL the votes, Obama won the popular vote.
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by dnsallday June 25, 2008 11:29 AM EDT
#1 Her 18 Million votes is MORE

than Obama''''s (I guess that means

he''''s out of it :)

#2 If you had ever actually voted

in a National Election before you

would know that write in votes are

legal in every state.

BUT MY FAVORITE PART WAS ABOUT

WRITE IN VOTES BEING ILLEGAL

ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION....

Posted by TruUSA at

1. When Hillary counts her 18 million votes, she counts Florida and Michigan and doesn''t count any for Obama. She doesn''t include the votes in several caucus states that voted heavily for Obama.
In other words, she counts the votes in a way that she thinks would benefit her, not in a realistic or honest way.
In Reality, Obama did win more of the popular vote than Clinton.
2. Some states refuse to count write in votes.
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by p650 June 25, 2008 10:16 AM EDT
Pelosi was for Obama all along. Dean and Pelosi did all they could see Obama get the nomination instead of Clinton. They went over the will of the voters and gave the golden boy the nation. Now they must live with that decision and try again in 2012 to get a Democrat in the White House.
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by jack3213 June 25, 2008 9:58 AM EDT
How pathetic this Pelosi is! They all act, Clinton included, as if they are the first women to do great things since sliced cheese! Sexism? No, delusional!
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by gaypastor June 25, 2008 6:26 AM EDT
Pelosi is a sell-out!
Way too late....and way too little Pelosi. And you call yourself an American Woman who represents us!? And for those of you who STILL don''t think there was really sexism surrounding Hillary''s campaign...stop and look at the facts....the INCREDIBLY long list of facts. Visit www.womenamericans.com/sexismhillary.htm
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