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by rowdywicca June 22, 2008 1:39 PM EDT
Posted by brianbwb at 09:50 AM : Jun 22, 2008

My answer to your goofball candidate:
Obama pissed off the Arabs and Jews in one speech
Obama gave three different stances on Venezuela in two days
Obama pissed off a whole nation by calling them typical white people
Obama pissed off rural people by basically calling them ignorant
Obama pissed off half the country by insinuating everybody the criticizes him are racists
Obama lied about his ancestors, his stances on half the issues, his associates and mentors, his legislative prowess which is NIL
Obama promoted public financing, then killed his own stance by being greedy
Obama pissed off half the voters by buying the nomination and threatening his opponent into backing him or else
Obama''''''''''''''''s grumpass wife hasn''''''''''''''''t done anything for anybody but herself, says she''''''''''''''''s never been proud of her country, and calls America mean...what the hell?
Obama''''''''s just pissed because McCain suggested a solution before he got to it...I mean that''''''''s what his oil and energy people PAID him to do...

I mean how many passes are Obama supporters going to give this idiot before they wake up!!!???





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by terrorislami June 22, 2008 1:34 PM EDT
Posted by politicogal at 09:27 AM : Jun 22, 2008

are you mad as hell at the kkklowntoons as well???

LOOK WHO BROKE THE CONSTITUTION

GOP targeting Clinton on phone-call snooping

Republicans plan to seize on an allegation from the 1992 presidential campaign to tarnish Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) on the red-hot issue of government surveillance.
Government surveillance will be at the forefront of the political debate this fall as congressional Democrats and President Bush square off over legislation allowing electronic spying on U.S. soil without a warrant.

Republicans are focusing on an allegation in a recent book by two Pulitzer Prize-winning reporters, which suggests Clinton listened to a secretly recorded conversation between political opponents.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gop-targeting-clinton-on-phone-call-snooping-2007-10-16.html
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by terrorislami June 22, 2008 1:33 PM EDT
Posted by politicogal at 09:27 AM : Jun 22, 2008

wrongggggggg

you must be really mad at FDR for rounding up all the japanese in america and locking them up without a trial,,,

bush did not round up all the muslims i n america,,,

the fisa law is only being updated because of new technology,,,

everything is fine,,,

actors should shut up and act,,, singers should shut up and act,,,

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by wdrussell1 June 22, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
you mean like FDR did when he rounded up all the japanese in america with no trials,,,
terrorsalami almost said something that made sense, by pure accident.
Yes FDR did go against the Constitution, history has proven it, just as Bush has.
So we will impeach FDR and Bush if that makes you happy.
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by neobrian-2009 June 22, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
OUTLAW '' CRIMINALS " WATERBOARD SHRUB
BAN the RepubliCON SECT !
This Evil Sect has Destroyed the Our Nation in 7.5 years ! Our government has been Hijacked by " Corporate Thugs " led by King W !
The amoebas who uphold BUSHCO are just as guilty ,and should be held accountable too.Build new prisons to hold these Re-Cons ! Use their money to house these Criminals,feed them genetically tainted food,polluted water and deny them health care. Pipe in Rush Limpdicck and FAUX NOISE for their enjoyment !If they complain,Waterboard them daily !
The monies that are left,use for health care for the remaining " True Patriots ",..The Ones who uphold our constitution and Truly Fight for Freedom,Not Greed !
NEVER Let your kids grow up to be Re-Cons !
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2008 1:00 PM EDT
"Just a thought. Thanks for listening. Hannah, a military veteran for Obama for President 2008" Posted by politicogal

Your thought is perfectly reasonable, and important for the future. It would be good to know who the telecoms bought off, regardless of party affiliation, and make them pay for selling our rights.
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
Posted by RowdyWicca

A whole nation? It seems you think that only "White" people are the US nation.

Rural people? a large portion actually are ignorant. Look up the definition, it means one who ignores. you are also ignorant, as you ignore the important issues and focus on irrelevant assumptions of your own making.

Most of the criticisms about Mr. Obama are of trivial matters, even false ones, those making them are indeed racists, they are also cowards for being too afraid to admit it.

His ancestors are not running for president. Here is an example of the above statement.

His wife is also not running for president, and as much as you may not like what she said, you still haven''t been able to show where she is wrong. Yet another example of the above.
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
"...all the new fisa law does is update it for the new technology,,, Posted by terrorislami

I wish there was a language simpler than English, it seems that the word "unconstitutional" is beyond your comprehension.

If an old law was in violation of the constitution, and warrantless wiretapping is a clear violation of the right to be protected against unreasonable search and seizure, the replacement law, if it authorizes warrantless wiretapping, is also in violation of the constitution, and therefore invalid. Passing yet another law to exempt a person, or company from liability for breaches of law and contract after the fact is ex post factoo, and therefore forbidden twice in the constitution.

For a second there you were showing a too rare moment of ability to think, you were posting actual points worthy of discussion, and then, because your logic was blown out of the water, resorted to the usual neocon tactic, mindless attempt at insult.

Maybe in a few generations your progeny might gain the ability to stand upright.
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by politicogal June 22, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
Good morning: As John Cusack, the producer of a documentary/satire on the Iraqi war said, "Our country is in a very dark place right now."
He is right. The Bush administration and its supporters have raped our constitution, run lawless over our nation -- and us, spit on our forefathers'' very careful design for our nation, a design intended to protect us against these very actions. If we want to reverse the fascist direction we have been taking for a number of years, we need to change our leadership. Please remember this if nothing else when you get in the voting booth this year:

"Last February, when an earlier version of the FISA bill came to a vote, Obama voted for an amendment to strip the telecom immunity provision from the bill. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) voted in favor of keeping immunity for the telecoms."
By protecting the immunity clause, we lose the right to learn why,when, how,where and especially WHO of this travesty. I cannot imagine why Reid is saying that the congress will TRY to deny immunity but will probably fail. Don''t we now have a majority congress? A majority that is Democratic? Is there a researcher out there who can provide us with a list of congress and senate members who get money from the telecoms? They need to be outed, regardless of their party. And certainly before the election.
Just a thought. Thanks for listening. Hannah, a military veteran for Obama for President 2008
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by terrorislami June 22, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
Posted by MCVet at 08:20 AM : Jun 22, 2008

you mean like FDR did when he rounded up all the japanese in america with no trials,,,

or do you mean like dimmy kkkarter and the klowntoons,,, LOL

LOOK WHO BROKE THE CONSTITUTION

GOP targeting Clinton on phone-call snooping

Republicans plan to seize on an allegation from the 1992 presidential campaign to tarnish Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) on the red-hot issue of government surveillance.
Government surveillance will be at the forefront of the political debate this fall as congressional Democrats and President Bush square off over legislation allowing electronic spying on U.S. soil without a warrant.

Republicans are focusing on an allegation in a recent book by two Pulitzer Prize-winning reporters, which suggests Clinton listened to a secretly recorded conversation between political opponents.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gop-targeting-clinton-on-phone-call-snooping-2007-10-16.html
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by wdrussell1 June 22, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
Notice how many right wing wackos hate everything that America once stood for?
They like the idea of government spying on ordinary Americans.
Destroy BushWorld bring back America.
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by mcvet June 22, 2008 11:20 AM EDT
A law may have an ex post facto effect without being technically ex post facto. For example, when a law repeals a previous law, the repealed legislation no longer applies to the situations it once did, even if such situations arose before the law was repealed. The principle of prohibiting the continued application of these kinds of laws is also known as Nullum crimen, nulla poena sine praevia lege poenali.

Posted by terrorislami at 05:48 AM : Jun 22, 2008

What this simple minded BOOTLICKER is trying to say in his pathetic small minded way is that the Fuhrer, Heir Bush, broke the LAW for SIX YEARS, kept that violation SECRET for those SIX YEARS and AFTER it was discovered he now want''s to let those who helped him BREAK the LAW off the hook! Why NOT come out and say it like it is Swastika Breath!! READY!? Put on that hood and sheet now...Shooter LOVES that!! SIEG HEIL BUSH!! Now come on!! You can do better than that... just like you do at the rally when the cross is set on fire!! SIEG HEIL MEIN FUHRER!!
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by mcvet June 22, 2008 11:16 AM EDT
warrantless wiretapping is too sanctioned by the fisa law,,, that is the reason it was passed,,, all the new fisa law does is update it for the new technology,,,

got it,,,

i know that will bother your fascist nazi terrorislamic jihadist buttt buddies,,,

but that is a good thing,,, LOL

hahaha

Posted by terrorislami at 06:23 AM : Jun 22, 2008
+ report abuse

THAT is NOT the ISSUE you poor simple minded Bootlicker!! Man am I glad you freaks have been on the WRONG side for so long. THE ISSUE Swastika Breath is the right of AMERICAN CITIZENS who''s RIGHTS were violated UNDER THE LAW, to go to Court and seek resolution on their grievances!! IS there any right, ANY that you cowards wouldn''t give up to "Feel" safe? SIEG HEIL BUSH!!
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by jjp735i June 22, 2008 10:20 AM EDT
The Dems show how weak they really once again. Giving in to Bush as always.
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by terrorislami June 22, 2008 9:23 AM EDT
Posted by brianbwb at 06:16 AM : Jun 22, 2008

warrantless wiretapping is too sanctioned by the fisa law,,, that is the reason it was passed,,, all the new fisa law does is update it for the new technology,,,

got it,,,

i know that will bother your fascist nazi terrorislamic jihadist buttt buddies,,,

but that is a good thing,,, LOL

hahaha
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2008 9:16 AM EDT
Posted by terrorislami

"The phrase Nulla poena sine lege (Latin: "no penalty without a law") refers to the legal principle that one cannot be punished for doing something that is not prohibited by law. This principle is accepted as just and upheld by the penal codes of constitutional states, including virtually all modern democracies. It is related to the principle called "Nullum crimen, nulla poena sine praevia lege poenali", which means penal law cannot be enacted retroactively."

Thus, since warrantless wiretapping is a violation of constitutional law, the liability of the telecoms cannot be nullified by a "replacement" law.
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2008 9:12 AM EDT
"A law may have an ex post facto effect without being technically ex post facto." Posted by terrorislami

It is still prohibited by the constitution. Example, those people caught and imprisoned for distilling and selling liquor during prohibition were not released because the law was changed while they were in jail.

At the time they broke the law they were sanctioned for it, and even though the law changed, the sentences were not nullified.

Any repeal of law cannot affect the status of people convicted of crimes that occurred under the old law.

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by terrorislami June 22, 2008 8:48 AM EDT
Posted by brianbwb at 05:19 AM : Jun 22, 2008

wrongggggggggggggggggggggg fascist nazi terrorislam breath,,,

A law may have an ex post facto effect without being technically ex post facto. For example, when a law repeals a previous law, the repealed legislation no longer applies to the situations it once did, even if such situations arose before the law was repealed. The principle of prohibiting the continued application of these kinds of laws is also known as Nullum crimen, nulla poena sine praevia lege poenali.
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2008 8:19 AM EDT
In short, the immunity is unconstitutional, and any law passed to grant retroactive change to the status of illegal wiretapping after it has occurred is invalid.
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2008 8:17 AM EDT
Posted by terrorislami

i-i-i-i-i-i-i-irrelevant.

As usual.
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