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by smirk5 May 16, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
It''s looking like McBush just can''t hold a position longer than a change of depends.
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by fmrdem May 16, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
The Obamanation yells Change! Change! Change! Funny, that''s what the Bolshevicks were yelling in 1917 Russia. What they were really saying was Give us your change! The Russian people had to endure the biggest scam in history for 70 years.
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by notopennshut May 16, 2008 10:38 PM EDT
Is it any wonder? McCain has flipped and flopped whenever he thinks that it would benefit him. Furthermore, he is old and forgetful and is often confused. People should realize that when he often apologizes for having mispoken. Not the case, my friend! Not when you confuse the various groups, terrorists and others. Not when you said that Hamas can be the leader because Fatah could not receive the support they needed, and now you denounce others for saying we should talk to them. Come on John my friend, just admit that you are just too old for the job and keep on forgetting what you have previously said. Remember the 100 years on tape? Yes, you said it, and this is why you should never lead this country for none of us can afford to have forgetful John keep us in a war for eternity.
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by jy2008 May 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
"Two States vs. Federal States of Israel and Palestine
.........................

Should we be looking at the region as a Federal States with one government elected by all of the people? This model may have a much better chance of survival as a solution for both Israeli and Arabs. "

This idea might be realistic someday but not now.

Do not you see people pretty much vote on their color or religion?
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by anappleadae May 16, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
StMTraveler

Negotiating with Arabs or Persions is not an option. Their idea of a negotiation is SURRENDER then have your head lopped on TV.

The reason Arabs and Persion do not simply take Israel by shear dominating force is due to Israel''s "Never Again" policy. That means if Israel is over run by Arabs and Persions one of the largest suicide spectacles in history of mankind would transpire leaving ALL of the Middle East inhabitants incinerated in the twinkling of your eye. For the rest of us Earth loving souls Nuclear Winter would engulf us and we would gradually all die.

Arabs and Persion do not consider this mass suicide an option because their dreams of a Global Calaphate of Islam would never take place.

Hope this obvious reality point adds to your understanding of the NO WIN SENARIO in ISRAEL.
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by anappleadae May 16, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
jim_and_z

Wow! An actual posting of relative sanity. It is refreshing to listen to your points, instead hynotised wining Obama followers.
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by stmtraveler May 16, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
Two States vs. Federal States of Israel and Palestine

We have had 60 years of experimenting about the Israeli- Palestinian struggle. The region would need help before we will be dragged into a World War III.

No one can reject the fact that creation of Israel on the land of Arabic nations has created tremendous political and economical problems for the United States. One solution would be for Israel joining us as a member of the Unites States%u2019 Common Wealth.

We are already supporting Israel economically, politically and by sharing intelligence and military hardware. In addition, some Israeli Americans with both Israeli and American citizenships serve in the Israeli Armed Forces.

The Common Wealth should include all of the Palestinians.

Would really two nation model for Palestinian and Israeli work in the future? Many experts on the Middle Eastern politics and people would suggest that a two state solution in not viable model. We have struggled with it for nearly 60 years.

Should we be looking at the region as a Federal States with one government elected by all of the people? This model may have a much better chance of survival as a solution for both Israeli and Arabs.

We have been forced into one box by the Israeli Lobby; we need to look outside of this box. We can%u2019t fight wars after wars to support a non-working model of a two state solution.

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by kenbomc May 16, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
McFlip will continue to change his mind if it will help in the polls. McSame said we would be ''surrendering'' if we left Iraq -now he has set a timetable to leave? McFlop will continue these flip-flop''s throughout the election. Bush promised a bipartisan white house. Now McFlip is promising one. The only thing McSame can promise is to continue our beloved presidents policies for another 4 years.
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by anappleadae May 16, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
csp66

SURE... THEN WE WILL ALL BE SNUG AND COMFY IN ENDURING ARMS OF THE OBAMA DRAMA. THOSE BAD PEOPLE WON''T GET US BECAUSE OBAMA''S RIGHTEOUSNESS IS ON OUR SIDE. GAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
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by csp66 May 16, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
Granted there''s a bit of hypocrisy in us all, but it''s the LEVEL, HUBRIS and FREQUENCY of the hypocrisy that makes the GOP rather revolting. The nation is finally wakening up to it and sure to vote it out in November.
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by anappleadae May 16, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
Rubin speaks of hypocrisy. He himself and all of us alike are hypocrits. I have seen many many people throughout the years and have yet to know one single soul, except for little babies who is not a hypocrit. Hypocrisy is just one of our tools in trade when negotiating the obstacles of living. The question is; How much of a hypocrit are we? Do we have this human failing under control or are we lost in an endless domination of self denial?

Rubin is just trying to peddle journalism much like all the other journalist hypocrits.

I hate to bring bad news, but even the messiah, Obama, is a hypocrit.
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by csp66 May 16, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
Ah, and I almost forgot, See McCain waving the American flag and wearing the flag pin while voting to cut benefits for active-duty and veteran soldiers. This guy is just as bad as the other neocons, just more senile. "Maverick" by a$$. The media puppets are such fools to keep embarrassing themselves by referring to McCain this way. Almost as much of a joke as W''''s "compassionate conservative" label, perhaps winner of this decade''''s "most extreme oxymoron" award.
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by csp66 May 16, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
"McCain isn''''''''t a hard core conservative and is NOT another Bush as some people here would have you believe." **** I would argue that he WASN''''T like Bush back in 2000, but since the GOP started dangling the nomination carrot in front of McCain, he SURE is starting to sound a lot like him - conservative activist judge appointees, saber-rattling for a third war in Iran (with Lieberman following him and whispering in his ear everywhere he goes), a cheerleader for the failed foreign policies that brought us Iraq, admittingly no concept of economics except for scams such as repealing the gas tax, making tax cuts for the top 1% permanent, agreement with Bush to not hold talks with Iran, explosive temper, voting to allow torture (the ultimate betrayal of values), warming up to both the neocons and the far right-wing crowd to get their vote, and the list goes on. Every day this guy looks more and more like a "W wannabe". Face it, the guy sold his soul to the neocons. And you thought Kerry was a flip flopper! This guy makes Kerry look like a concrete wall. I won''''t even go into how this guy could never win over the religious right after he called them "agents of intolerance" and demonstrated a lack of "family values" by dumping his wife on her sick bed to take up with some rich hot babe. Nope, more of the same, and most importantly, a vote for McCain is a vote to keep all the neocons and incompetent cronies of the Bush administration employed. You KNOW that was part of the nomination deal.
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by vrnnjoseph May 16, 2008 5:48 PM EDT
Flipper!!!
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by jld1959 May 16, 2008 5:16 PM EDT
Two years ago, in an interview with James Rubin for Sky News, Sen. John McCain expressed a willingness to negotiate with the terrorist group Hamas %u2014 the very group that McCain has been relentlessly using to smear Sen. Barack Obama over the last several weeks.

Rubin has written an op-ed in Friday''s Washington Post about his exchange with McCain, and The Huffington Post has obtained exclusive video

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/exclusive-video-mccain-wa_n_102031.html
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by jim_and_z May 16, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
Typical of how BO, his surrogates, and his media hold the intelligence of American voters in contempt. The likes of Biden and Rubin muddy up the issue to camouflage BO%u2019s public faux pas in the live CNN/You Tube Debate in July. In that debate BO expressly said he would meet the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS during the first year of his presidency. (Of course he did not have the benefit of first hearing Hillary''s answer before making his own response.) Yes people like McCain and Gates recognize the reality of international dialogue and indeed such dialogue has been used in the Bush administration. But NOT directly as President and without preconditions as BO so clumsily spoke.

BO and his surrogates could have moved on. They could have taken the high road and used Bush''s recent statement, against appeasement of Hitler types, as a platform for finding common ground. Instead, they chose to play the old victim card--"poor BO is under attack." I guess they never heard the adage: if the shoe fits wear it. By crying out they just proved the point.
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by mannie49 May 16, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
Don''t worry, it will all come out after we know who the democrat nominee is. McCain has always gotten a free ticket to pass but it''s going to end soon. We will all know who the real McCain is.
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by rjstolba May 16, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
What''s to be surprised about?? On the Hill, I have heard that John McCann is infamous for 2 things--his temper and hypocracy.

Interviewers and others have seen that when you push him on his so-called budget oversight, staff harangues, religious connections, etc, you will see his true colors.
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by cttullie May 16, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
2013 !?!?

HOW ABOUT 2013 X 10 MORE LIVES BEING TAKEN BY THEN!
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by newsjunky5 May 16, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
McCain lied about this because his personal power is more of a priority than a silly little thing like democracy, diplomacy, or that other boring stuff. Hey, he''s still told 900 lies fewer than Bush.
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