Comments on: Youth Vote Hard To Turn Out, Hard To Poll

CBS' Kathy Frankovic: Voters Under 30 Tend To Stay Away From Polls And Pollsters

[homespunlady]

Posted by tcoleman12 at 03:04 PM : Dec 05, 2007

Who''s creating and marketing those "reality shows" which such a HUGE percentage of the public (much larger than the percentage of youth) watch?

I can''t see blaming the youth of today for their parents using TV as a full-time babysitter so those irresponsible "parents" could do something else other than RAISE and TEACH their children to be responsible citizens.

[tcoleman12]

How about this for a plan, SGT...Let the youth vote show up and vote in the Democrat, as it seems you would prefer. Then everyone would have to take up arms to fight the enemy here again due to the "Head-in-the-sand" Democrats that would be in charge trying to figure out why the terrorists dislike us rather than keeping us safe.

[homespunlady]

Posted by SgtRDS at 03:03 PM : Dec 05, 2007

Please don''t fall for the "spoiled brat" stereotype and apply it to All those under 30. A lot of that is as much pure bunk as the stereotypes of the past of happy singing slaves, devoted fat mothers and cruel snooty rich people.
If there is one thing I''ve learned it''s that those who use stereotypes often do so in order to justify discrimination.

The young people I know are as diverse as their elders. Most are sincere and trying to learn the art of living which apparently is sorely missing from our educational system.

I am very glad I chose to home-school my youngest. At 17 she juggles 3 jobs, volunteers with several charities and most of her friends are in Military service and also well under that "magic age" of 30.

If they can DIE for their country, do you really want to deny them any more rights than someone that wasted decades as a wealthy drunk (see George''s bio)?

[tcoleman12]

Many of you are way over-thinking the "Youth Voter" of today. All you have to do is get on the computer or turn on the TV to find out what today''s youth is watching and doing to find out why they don''t turn out to vote. Many of you are giving them way too much credit for being responsible young adults that don''t want to lose a job...and many are.
However, if this election were a Reality Show, you would see a turnout like never before.
Rock-the-Vote, Vote-or-Die and others can get all these "youth" to register (because everyone else is). But it just doesn''t get them out on Tuesday to vote.

[sgtrds]

Want to get the youth vote out? Start a military draft. Once many of these spoiled brats have to start worrying about being sent off to die for nothing in a Bush war, rather then how they can download more music on to their IPODs, they''ll actually realize that the lunatics in the White House right now need to be paid attention to.

[homespunlady]

Posted by tiddsanbeer at 01:57 PM : Dec 05, 2007

Your post and your name contradict each other. If appearance were the basis I know Plenty of Over 30''s that would be banned also - you included.
It isn''t appearance that maintains a Democracy - it''s active participation and a well-educated electorate.

If certain political and industrial "leaders" of our nation choose to manipulate that electorate by encouraging "dumbing down" our public schooled children then who really is to blame and what kind of FOOLS would fall for such a manipulative agenda?

I see a generation of GREAT potential WASTED in order to consolidate and CONTROL power and wealth based on the unbelievably FOOLISH reasons of old men afraid of losing their iron grip on their empires.

[homespunlady]

For the "under 30" voter to participate the disconnect with their reality and the current disparate, confusing, registration boondoggle that varies from state to state has to be fixed and issues that they feel are relevant and deeply affect them have to be addressed.

Some states allow registering at the polls, some do not. In my state, if you don''t register several months before and ACTIVELY SEARCH for the location you''re allowed to vote in you''re NOT likely to just stumble across it.

Voting during the day on a Tuesday just insures those that want to KEEP their "entry level" JOBS get to CHOOSE between PAYING TO VOTE by losing pay or even their job and voting for an issue or person that to them is in a different social reality then their struggle to survive everyday modern life.

For most of the poor and young kids just starting out the RISKS of voting often outweigh the supposed benefits.

Discrimination through MANIPULATION of the voting procedures has been a long time tradition here in the US.
It used to be used to prevent women and non-whites from being fairly represented.

Now it''s a subtle trick used to discriminate in a "socially acceptable" new way - based on SOCIAL CLASS which is both a throwback to medieval thinking and a way to control a portion of the population that has very little power to control their world - for now.

If the us economy goes south and the dollar collapses I suspect those people will find a way to upset that discriminatory applecart.

[cmw3]

Unfortunately, this article perpetuates a number of unsubstantiated assumptions about the youth vote, using polls as opposed to actual data from the previous election cycles that do show an increased presence youth voter bloc. For more info (that provides data, links, and research):

http://blog.rockthevote.com/2007/12/for-media-young-voter-myths-and-facts.html

[cmw3]

Unfortunately, this article perpetuates a number of unsubstantiated assumptions about the youth vote, using polls as opposed to actual data from the previous election cycles that do show an increased presence youth voter bloc. For more info (that provides data, links, and research):

http://blog.rockthevote.com/2007/12/for-media-young-voter-myths-and-facts.html

[johnpmorris]

I''m a Huckabee supporter, I admit. But I really think that Mike Huckabee has the potential to take on celebrity status in the country, even among the under-30''s. He''s skyrocketing in the polls, and is now FIRST IN THE NATION!!(rasmussen daily tracking poll). People like Mike. You can see this poll and others at:

"Give Hope Another Chance"
www.mike-huckabee.blogspot.com