Comments on: Faith Plays Complex Role In '08 Race

CBS' Kathy Frankovic: Candidates' Beliefs Not Well-Known, But Voters Want Them To Be Strong

[candide777]

"A number of serious attempts were made to kill Rushdie....His...translators were criminally assaulted....His Norwegian publisher was shot in the back several times....One might have thought that such arrogant state-sponsored homicide, directed at a lonely and peaceful individual who pursued a life devoted to language, would have called for general condemnation....In considered statements, the Vatican, the archbishop of Canterbury, and the chief sephardic rabbi of Israel all took a stand in sympathy with--the ayatollah....So did the cardinal archbishop of New York....all these men stated that the main problem raised by the [book] was not murder by mercenaries, but blasphemy." -- Christopher Hitchens, "god is not Great; How Religion Poisons Everything" (2007)

[candide777]

Thanks, CBS, for continuing to legetimize "faith" as an integral part of this election. It has no place in politics and the candidates who keep talking about it are doing nothing but confirming that they are incapable of upholding our constitution because they simply can''t keep their "faith" out of our lives.

[jankebenz]

Quatrops, I don,t mean to bore you with long theological scripts, but Leviticus is a very misunderstood book ,often used to ridicule christians.The whole central theme of the bible is about God and his love for us,concentrating on the "laws" defeats the whole purpose.

[jankebenz]

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Contemporary attitudes of indifference stand in contrast to earlier Jewish attitudes towards Leviticus, when it was valued so highly that it was made the first book of the Torah to which they introduced their children at school. It was the place they started when instilling the values and rules necessary for daily living. Jesus would have known it well, along with the rest of the Pentateuch, and respected its authority.

The gospel, which presumes a knowledge of sacrifice and atonement, of law and grace, of sin and obedience, of defilement and cleansing, of priesthood and temple curtains, makes little sense without it. Leviticus serves as a preliminary sketch of the master-piece that was to be unveiled in Christ. The fullest exposition of the relationship between Leviticus and the gospel, of course, is to be found in the letter to the Hebrews. Leviticus forms a foundation not only for the gospel but for Christian living. While the New Testament draws up new maps to guide the moral and spiritual life of the Christian, it does so by making use of the earlier charts of Leviticus. Particular applications may have changed, but the guiding ethical principles remain as firm as ever. Without Leviticus our Christian experience would be a house without a foundation

[jankebenz]

Why is it that you and folks like JenkeBenz never quote Leviticus when proclaiming biblical inerrancy?

Posted by Quatrops at 07:02 PM : Oct 31, 2007


Introduction extract
Leviticus is good news. It is good news for sinners who seek pardon, for priests who need empowering, for women who are vulnerable, for the unclean who covet cleansing, for the poor who yearn for freedom, for the marginalized who seek dignity, for animals that demand protection, for families that require strengthening, for communities that want fortifying and for creation that stands in need of care. All these issues, and more, are addressed in a positive way in Leviticus.

Admittedly, this is not the usual impression people have of the book, which often suffers from a bad reputation. As far back as 1891, one evangelical commentator spoke of people''s difficulties with it. A large number who wanted to own it as the word of God only did so, according to Samuel Kellogg, ''in a discouraged way''. Most, however, either chose to dismiss it as relevant only for the Mosaic age, or expressed discomfort at the extreme severity of its laws, or simply treated it with indifference and doubted whether it was the word of God. The situation has not improved since then and, sadly, for most Christians today it is simply an unknown and unopened book.

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[quatrops]

Good 7:12 post, fibonacci. If the rest of us posters had just a touch of your humility, we would all have more civil dialogues. Thanks!

[fibonacci_]

I guess your right Quatrops. I also apologize for kind of being a pr*ck.

I wish the best for our country...I care about it a lot although I don''t live there anymore. The USA is a great place to live and I know that. I really appreciate what we have built, what we have, and our incredibly rich culture.

Good night all.

[jacksteen1]

It is amusing that CBS and most of the media are attempting to make religion a non-issue...or, at the same time, they are, in different markets, trying to make one candidate''s - Willard Romney''s - choice of religious cult seem acceptable or somehow mainstream to assist this devious and evil plural marriage-proponent in his attempt to win the Republiscum Party''s nomination.

It will not work.

Romney''s cult membership is VERY MUCH on the minds of voters across the land - those that can read, I mean...and those that can listen and watch MSNBC, C-Span, PBS, or any of the reliably honest networks. All of these have run programs aimed at informing the populace of the beliefs of this cross-eyed, inbred follower of the White Salamander.

Likewise, no one but fellow snake-handlers or ''left behind'' proponents will find much of substance in Mike "Huckleberry" Huckabee, the slack-jawed Yokel that doesn''t believe in evolution. Where''s his alleged ''degree'' from - Wheaton College ?

The usual games are being played by the media to inflame the senses of the simpletons...to fill the polls next November with those who see visions and hear voices telling them to shoot...to hurt abortion doctors or clinic workers...to kill or maim those with sexual habits that fall outside of the usual boundaries of MuleShoe, Texas, inhabitants'' publicly confessed experiences.

This hateful ruse perpetuates the news medias'' reason for existence and their bread and butter - - and is despicable.

[quatrops]

Give it up, fibonacci. These twits are not worth your time.

So,sblake, in addition to proclaiming you have been granted the mantle of Christ for making judgements about us sinners, you are now proclaiming the power to deny Christ to them if they wait until their deathbed to seek redemption. The Gospel of Sblake sure doesn''t read like the Gospel of Christ!

Why is it that you and folks like JenkeBenz never quote Leviticus when proclaiming biblical inerrancy?

[jankebenz]

Right on. I guess if you really believe in that stuff you somehow feel obligated to "spread the word."

Posted by fibonacci_ at 06:45 PM : Oct 31, 2007

Yes I really believe in God and biblical truths and hope that everyone would also come to see the light. The world would be a whole lot better place. May God bless you