Comments on: Hawaii Natives Want Their Kingdom Back

Quiet Factions In The Island State Peacefully Demand The Overthrow Of The U.S. Government

[gopack443]

WE STOLED IT FAIR AND SQUARE!

[deacon20081]

As an american indian I offer my sympathy........but
Good luck with that "kingdom" non-sense.
I now demand all europeans to get out of MY country and give us your bank account while you are at it....
Dummies........

[steeepe]

Ridiculous! Where does it stop? History is a series of take-overs all around the world. Why revert to the last century? Why not go back and undo everything in the last 200 years or 400 years? Maybe we should give the U.S. back to England or to native Americans. Why not redraw the world map as it was in 1400?

[elichez1]

It would not bother me to see the poor *** kill every politician and foreign looking person in sight.

[barbaraf4]

It turns out that the real goal was to destroy the viability of that community. Why? So the present buildings could be destroyed and new condos could go up at about 2 million a pop. Posted by toldyouso12
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The Bishop Estate, which has zillions of dollars in it, was established to finance native Hawaiians. Little by little these By-laws have been ignored. Punahoe School, for instance was established to educate Hawaiian children locally and from out-lying islands. It offered the finest education in Hawaii and to attend you had to be part native (I think at least 1/8th, but I can''t remember). In recent years, lawsuit after lawsuit has been won to put the children of the rich white residents in the school. I am not surprised about the condos and apartments. Bernice Biship must be turning over in her grave.

[barbaraf4]

The Missionaries came to Hawaii to do good. They did well.

The Hawaiians have sure enjoyed the income from tourism and military spending for well over a half century. Having lived on Oahu for 3 years, I know what I''m talking about.

Having said that, now that we have all but destroyed the Hawaiian culture, I guess it''s time to get out - isn''t that our track record globally?

[extremophil]

"They also claim the right to confiscate all bank assets in Hawaii."

Aloha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

[toldyouso12]

We Americans should not act so smug in our acceptance that "we won" and the natives should just get over themselves...because a similar thing is about and is slowly happening to us--and maybe that is just Karma.

We scoff at the lives of the locals being exploited and their countries being turned into so much real estate fodder that others with more money eat up, while the locals have to give up their homes and land and become the servants and welfare recipients of their own country. But it is happening here. People from the ME, Canada and Asia are buying up American property and coming to take American jobs, while a good chunk of American jobs go overseas and others are given to people with H-1B visas. Meanwhile, our colleges are making it as hard as they can for Americans to get degrees in engineering, nursing and other fields by forcing incredible GPA''s (like a minimum of 3.75 to get into nursing) and crazy limits to classes (like less than 20 new students per yr for nursing at many schools) Then they can cry shortage and higher the cheaper, imported immigrant.

When all is said and done--a lot of middle class Americans will be losing their homes to people from other countries who may flock here for vacation homes --and the irony is that these families and their descendants will be working in and for their own homes and being paid peanuts and crumbs that the foreign vacationers throw them.

[toldyouso12]

The bottom line is that America treats the local pop. abysmally and Hawaii is really a Japanese owned, American state. It has become (like the Carribean islands) a retreat for the wealthy and other countries while the locals function as serfs and backdrop. Colonization rarely benefits the actual indigenous people--it primarily enriches the occupier and the collaborators among the locals who help them--witness Iraq--and who has the new vacation homes in Jordan. It is not the avg Shia or Sunni. Ask Al Maliki.

[toldyouso12]

In 2006, while in Hawaii, we noted a story in the news where people of native descent and other residents of a large state subsidized housing complex were given the boot in Oahu. The city had allowed the charter for the hotel to be taken over by a private interest who was supposed to run it better. Instead, that interest has secured enough votes to remove the subsidization and began charging rents of those poor people that they could not pay. Their rents went from like 325.00/month to 3000.00/month in a matter of months.

As if that was not bad enough, the group then decided to rout anyone who could pay the 3000.00/month (they would not allow new tenants who could pay to move in) and those who paid the 3000.00 a month did so by many families crowding into one apartment.

It turns out that the real goal was to destroy the viability of that community. Why? So the present buildings could be destroyed and new condos could go up at about 2 million a pop. And where were all the people (over 400 families) to go? Given that they lacked the income for apartments and all other poor housing was filled up, they were in tent cities on the beach and maybe, they are still there).