Comments on: U.S. Plane Lost Panel, Kept Flying

American Airlines Investigating Why Jet Headed For Paris Ignored Loud Noises

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by txgrouch2004 May 8, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
holycow9 wrote:
hillary would have been the first one out in a parachute.
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And she would have thrown out all the OTHER parachutes first...
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by darthluke12694 May 8, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
Look. The pilot could not of done anything. No lights came on and there is no way to see what is under the plane. Everything was functioning normal. What else is he supposed to do.
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by mjm121 May 8, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
According to the memo, no cockpit warning lights came on, and the pilot, who was not identified, also spoke to a maintenance technician in Fort Worth


That is the scariest part of all this to me. No warning light???
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by gheemaster38 May 8, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
Let me correct this before the literary majors attack:

To SUM things up:

Since the plane made it and no one was killed -that is company procedure

IF the plane had crashed and burn- Pilot error..
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by gheemaster38 May 8, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
To some it up:

Since the plane made it and no one was killed -that is company procedure

IF the plane had crashed and burn- Pilot error..
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by haoli25 May 8, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
I guess that one slipped past the American plane inspections. I hope this will convince more people to avoid American Airlines...they are nothing more than a cattle car with wings.
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by Syndicate May 8, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
Looks like the pilot knew what he was doing. They made it to Paris.
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by extradition May 8, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
Let''''s face it. Pilots are nothing more than glorified bus drivers. -olebd

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You''re a moron.
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by maharishi1 May 8, 2008 6:48 PM EDT
Bush fault!!
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by olebd May 8, 2008 6:42 PM EDT
Let''s face it. Pilots are nothing more than glorified bus drivers.
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by tucano2 May 8, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
Obviously the Pilot distained information from Flight Attendants, demonstrating an arrogance towards his betters.
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by pensacola88 May 8, 2008 6:18 PM EDT
Access panels have fallen off before on several aircraft, both military and civilian. They are removed and installed so often that the fastening hardware fails. Planes are designed so that access panels can fall away harmlessly when their fastener hardware fails. The military learned to keep access panels from being injested in to the intake vents of the engine. Most of the worst offenders are positioned along the bottom or belly of the airframe. On propellor aircraft, they are always behind the propellors. This is not like foam pieces flying off the space shuttle external fuel tank.

Unpressurized planes have taken off with their doors open and remain safe in flight.

The report is far over-sensationalized. It occurs more often than most know. Fortunately, it is not like dangerous road debris on the hiway coming off other cars and trucks.



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by hawksprings May 8, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
Oh come on people.
How were the pilots to know that the shaking wasn''t Bill Clinton and a stewardess in the bathroom?
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by taylor2124 May 8, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
HockeymanVT, what is it about companies and the way they stay in business that YOU don''t understand? Apparently, everything.
You capitalist haters who label every business decision as "greed" simply hate companies and profits.(Although, the airlines haven''t made a profit in YEARS).
So, let me explain things so even the first graders and the liberal anti-capitalists can understand. Here goes: a company sells goods and or services. They have to sell them for a price. That price has to include something called "profit". The company has to hire people to do something called "work". These people have jobs, which is likely a strange concept to the liberals. The company, if they make a profit, will invest that money back in the company and create more jobs. They also sell stock to people to invest in the company. If the company does well, then the employees, the stockholders, and the public all benefit. If the company does bad, they can go out of business, thus depriving ALL of us of those products and services. Nobody benefits from a company like AA from going out of business. Nobody. Last thing: there is no such thing as "greed" in business. It''s called "right pricing", and "whatever the market will bear". Got it?
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by cbsblogger May 8, 2008 6:01 PM EDT
The key issue was failure of the captain to pay significant attention to unusual noises and vibrations.

The attendants were experienced members of the crew. Their perspective and concern about these odd noises should have been taken into account. Their physical location in the airframe is different from the flight deck and thus they would have a valid perspective on what noises or vibrations are usual or unusual.

Sudden onslaught of unusual noises and vibrations are primary indicators of airframe damage and can be precursors leading to catastrophic loss of flight control. The pilot said that there were no warning lights on but rarely would there be an indicator or warning light for structural failure.

American Airlines say that they want their pilots to react exactly as this pilot did...in other words take the chance instead of landing and verifying airworthiness. Thanks for the heads up CBS as I won''t be flying American.
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by culturechang May 8, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
I wonder if FAA inspectors were pulled off the job of inspecting airplanes to assist with wire tapping escort services and massage parlor raids. You safety is no concenr of the current govt. YOUR morals and lifestyle are alltogether THIER business.
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by apilot1 May 8, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
BTW, I do NOT work for American Airlines
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by dredre2k May 8, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
A little Elmers Glue and Duct Tape can fix it up and your good to go. ~ acolton1

Hmmm, I think you''re onto something: Use of Elmer''s glue and glue sticks to repair airplanes should raise airline profits 500%! ;-) Anything to make a buck!
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by apilot1 May 8, 2008 5:35 PM EDT
As a pilot with 3,500 hours in jet aircraft, both large and small, it would be totally irresponsible to execute a flyby of a control tower in a heavy 767 to "check out" the bottom of the aircraft. Likewise, having another airliner or military jet inspect the aircraft would be even more irresponsible. Pennsylvania Senator John Heinz died in just such an event in 1991, when a helicopter was attempting to fly formation to determine why the landing gear of his small plane wouldn''t come down. The two craft collided, killing all involved. The landing would have wrecked the airplane he was flying in, but he most likely would have walked away from the gear-up landing. This was not a serious incident and the pilot, to whom AA pays lots of money made a safe, conservative decision based on the best information available when initial indications from the lost panel subsided and all indications were normal.
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by mljohns00 May 8, 2008 5:34 PM EDT
Reminds me of that recent gun fired in the cockpit. "Nobody was ever at risk". Yeah, since nobody died this time, nobody was ever at risk.
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