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Stricter Gun Control Laws After Virginia Tech Shooting Would Be A Hard Sell

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by erasmus6 April 18, 2007 9:52 PM EDT
rheola

Yes, I understood what toldyouso21 was saying about the "sarcasm" part, but lately I find that too many people say things and then brush them off, as they didn't mean it. Like Imus, Mel Gibson for instance, when they make a racial comment and then say they don't think like that. Well if they didn't think like that, they wouldn't have said it.
I do not think for one moment that ALL Americans are loud, arrogant, hate mongering, violent oafs like toldyouso21 was insinuating and when I asked you the question, How many more have this mentality?, I am truly curious to know, because if too many people have that attitude, it could indeed me a major problem.
You could consider yourself lucky, (if you can consider yourself lucky to have a water shortage that is), because no one will invade your country to get it. The Americans have had problems for years with power and water from what I have heard, so when something like global warming starts happening, well, lets just say that things are going to get alot worse and when you have people saying those kind of things, it makes you THINK.
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by randalds April 18, 2007 9:51 PM EDT
I called my Congressman this morning and suggested all registered gun owners (militiamen, rural sheepherders, and southerners, no difference)) in the USA now bve required to serve their country and report for active duty in Iraq. His office thought that was an excellent suggstion!

Posted by condumism at 03:32 PM : Apr 18, 2007

Been there, done that (even though my guns are not registered as they are hunting weapons and not required to be). Except my war was Vietnam. What one was yours?
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by rheola-2009 April 18, 2007 9:21 PM EDT
Veteran71

Further to last.

Not much we can do at this stage about explosives, but surely it can be attempted to lower the horrific loss of live by the use of guns in your country, I understand approx 30,000 gun related deaths per year, what a terrible waste.

I believe we have a wonderful freedom here, part of that freedom to me, is the ability to venture out of doors, with a greatly reduced chance of becoming just another statistic.
I can happily do without a gun, for just that.

Enjoy your evening.
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by rheola-2009 April 18, 2007 9:14 PM EDT
Veteran71

A compromise form of gun control exists in Australia, the very greater majority of the population agree and are relatively happy with it, their only concern at present heightened by that recent happening, is that handguns are, though controlled , still a little to easy to access.

Our gun related death rate on a pro rata basis is a fraction of that in the U.S. surely that in itself is an answer to all criticsm.
There is nil Paranoia here of a government running out of control, nor of a militia attempt of the same.

YOU MAY WELL QUOTE THAT CRIMINALS WILL ALWAYS ACCESS GUNS, THAT IS SO, BUT AT LEAST IT IS MUCH HARDER FOR THEM, IN FACT MOST OF THE WEAPONS HELD BY CRIMINALS HERE, ARE SMUGGLED IN PRESUMABLY FROM COUNTRIES WITH LESS RESTRICTING GUN LAWS.

Sorry about the capitals, was not intended.

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by rheola-2009 April 18, 2007 8:53 PM EDT
Erasmus6

I replyed to your posting last night, however failed to scroll down the pertinent postig completely, and will now offer my humble apologies to the poster.

Keep up the good work, we are on the long term winning side.
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by rheola-2009 April 18, 2007 8:42 PM EDT
Veteran71

Your last makes no sense.

I could just as easily say you are basing your argument on emotion, not based on fact, but focused on fear of a percieved problem.

Your examples, though do have a little merit, but are so much easier for them to carry out with a redily obtained gun
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by erasmus6 April 18, 2007 8:28 PM EDT
The problem with everyone having guns is that you are going to get people who will shoot another person just because they don't like what another persons says or does. There are a lot of people who have problems with anger.
Also I read a post where someone said that they killed a burglar entering their home. Now I can see killing some one if they are trying to KILL YOU. Most burglars aren't trying to kill you they are there to steal something.
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by rheola-2009 April 18, 2007 7:52 PM EDT
Engineer2001

If in fact the stats are about the same, then all of America should have a feeling of dense shame, to allow such a situation to continue.
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by engineer2001 April 18, 2007 7:42 PM EDT
"Americans have such short attention spans when it comes to public policy. Over the past 20 years, the number of violent gun attacks in the US has exploded, and it seems to be accelerating." - Too_Many

Have you any actual facts to back that up? The media is simply covering school shooting more now than they did, same as they did a year or so ago with shark attacks. The stats stay about the same, but the coverage goes up, and people think, "oh no! This is getting much worse!" It's really about the same as every other year. Does it make it any less heinous? Absolutely not! Does it mean we should use this to press pro- or anti-gun agendas? Certainly not! This is a mental health and school administration (rules banning weapons not being enforced) issue, not a gun issue.
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by rheola-2009 April 18, 2007 7:33 PM EDT

Following is a post from early this morning.

Myself I feel the comment about restrictions on portrayed violence are equally as important as some form of partial restrictions on gun ownership.


It is true that Switzerland is among the most heavily armed nations in the world. I used to be an officer in the Swiss Army and carried a StGW 57 (Swiss made assault rifle) and 24 rounds of ammo at home.

But do you also know that the sale of automatic and semi-automatic weapons is prohibited in Switzerland? Do you also know that access to violent video games is limited? and that the Swiss Radio & Television Commission imposes restrictions on the violent content of TV shows and movies.

Isn't there an obvious connection between low crime rate in Switzerland and its gun control laws and anti-violence policy?

The Virginia Tech shooting raises the philosophical question of liberty. What is the meaning of true freedom? Is it a self-centered right to satisfy my compulsive craving for instruments of death? or is it a deeply fulfilling state of being free from constant fear?

The measure of a free and civilized society is not the amount of deadly toys its populace owns, but the good it produces with it.

America, the entire world looketh at thee and shaketh its head in disbelief...

Posted by aprilmonkey at 02:40 AM : Apr 18, 2007
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