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Politico: Online Liberal Activists Upset Dem Candidate Is Supporting Surveillance Bill
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- Repubs & Dems are more alike than they want to admit.
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Posted by Questionnews at 05:15 PM : Jun 26, 2008
That''s a very sad but true statement. Sometimes all you can do is "go against" a position, rather than fully support a position. This year we have to do something differently than we have for the past 7+ years. Like I said earlier, Obama is NOT a perfect candidate, but he''s a lot closer than is McCain. - Reply to this comment
- So now it has started. Obama fans get ready, he''''ll throw you all under the bus as soon as he gets the Presidency.
Must have been some Telecom money in those small internet donations!
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Posted by broncfan1661 at 05:12 PM : Jun 26, 2008
Perzactly! Just like he voted for *** Cheney''s energy bill...and all those nice oil and energy CEO''s and their wives, and children, and granny, and grandad, and aunt Martha, and Uncle Tom...all of a sudden had money at the maximum amount to post!
Strange isn''t it...how he just HATES big money, unless it is working to buy him support! - Reply to this comment
- Isn''t it nice that people are finally waking up to this idiots inexperience and whack job agenda? Not to mention dangerous!
Then man has no freaking clue what he''s for or what he''s not for. Every time he opens his mouth, it''s either a lie, or an evasion! - Reply to this comment
- I thought that Dems were outraged with the surveillance policies the Bushit put in place & were going to reverse these policies. I guess not. Do you really think that the Dems are going to reverse the additional powers of the executive branch that Bush put in place? Of course not! Not if it''s their guy in there to enjoy them. Repubs & Dems are more alike than they want to admit.
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- So now it has started. Obama fans get ready, he''ll throw you all under the bus as soon as he gets the Presidency.
Must have been some Telecom money in those small internet donations! - Reply to this comment
- wait oh, now everybody cares about the gov. tapping in to our phone lines?
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- LOL - we shot Obama8years down on FISA, and off-shore drilling, so now he''s reverting back to Rev. Wright. Been there, done that.
cry - blogosphere is what you''re on. Netroots is the old grassroots, but means drumming up support on the net. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by likeitis5050
I''m sure we''ll be disappointed at times - we don''t think Obama is perfect. But no one wants a 3rd Bush term with McSame.
And, so he disappoints MoveOn. You think they''re going to go campaign for McSame? Half the time, when they release a commercial, people discount whatever good points they make, simply because they don''t like MoveOn. This is not a big deal for Obama, sorry. - Reply to this comment
- My My MY.....Whats Obama to Do....Will he disown the Black Community :)
%u201CI can no more disown him than I can disown the black community,%u201D said Obama. So then it is clear that Obama believes that Wright%u2019s ideas represent the black community and black experience in America when they represent only the radicalized fringe of black America that wants to aid America%u2019s enemies abroad. It is doubtful many black Americans who served proudly in the US military feel the same as Wright on this issue.
%u2028What is more, militant Islamists see a potential to sow internal problems and promote their fascist goals in the US by trying to divide the American black community against the US government. Whereas blacks have been exploited in the past, this is now seen as a way to achieve the goals of expanding the Muslim ummah inside the US from in the Middle East. That is why Libya gives money to Farrakhan and why the ISM and Sabeel work with Reverend Wright whose personal interpretations of Christianity are entrenched in Obama%u2019s mind as the True Word of Christianity. Wright actually visited Mohammar Ghaddafi in Libya with Farrakhan in the past. - Reply to this comment
- The question is if we want a man in the White House who will regularly give his ear to the likes of a Reverend Wright, his and Sabeel%u2019s replacement theologies, and pro-terrorist propagandists like Ali Abunimah on a regular basis? In one sense, Obama could be considered the ISM%u2019s Manchurian candidate given his wide connections to ISM activists and campaign movements such as the Wheels of Justice Tour, Joseph Carr a.k.a. Joseph Smith, Hannah Mermelstein, Anna Baltzer and others.
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- Posted by obama8years at 04:19 PM : Jun 26, 2008
You''''re not real educated, are you? Are you a possible result of generations of in-breeding?
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public class Obama_Marxist
{
switch(rev wrights church)
case "racist":
messagebox.show("Obama is bad for this country")
break;
case "marxist":
messagebox.show("he is a Marxist")
Me
} - Reply to this comment
- Posted by lorinkundert at 04:32 PM : Jun 26, 2008
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lorinkundert, looks like nanc12 has already taken you on, her post hadn''t come up when I challenged you. As you can see, you don''t want to start the flip flop game when all you have to work with in McCain''s reputation. Rots O ruck sucka! - Reply to this comment
- flipflops part 3
11. Alternative minimum tax Was for repealing it, now wants to phase it out.
12. Litmus test for judicial appointees: was against it before he was for it
13. Offshore drilling 1999, supported moratorium and scolded "special interests" 2008, let''s drill.
These can be found at http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/16/mccain-sets-a-new-record-10-flip-flops-in-two-weeks/.
Unfortunately, when the article was posted 3 weeks ago, there were only 10 flip-flops, they had to update it to add 3 more.
And can we forget 2001: cannot in good conscience support tax cuts.
2005: McCain Anti-Torture Amendment 2008, voted against the ban
2006 McCain Immigration Bill 2008, did not vote for it. - Reply to this comment
- We will start calling Obama by his new nickname "The Carp" due to all the flip flopping around he is becoming known for.
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Posted by lorinkundert at 04:32 PM : Jun 26, 2008
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Tell you what lorinkundert, you start naming Obama''s flip flops and I''ll start naming McCain''s flip flops. I''ll still be posting when your little pea brain burns out. Ready?..Here''s number 1. This was directed at Pat Roberts and Jerry Falwell: "they are agents of intolerance". Six years later, McCain''s kissing Falwell''s A$$ and speaking at his college. OK, now it''s your turn! - Reply to this comment
- The funny thing about these new "provisions" in the FISA bill that allow Obama to sleep at night supporting are nothing more than fluffy ways of stating things that already were in the original bill. Republicans probably had to smack themselves to keep a poker face as this bill gained support by Democrats.
http://www.slate.com/id/2194254/pagenum/2/
"Why the new wiretapping law is a lot worse than you think" - Reply to this comment
- Flip-flops Part 2
6. FISA 12/20/07, said Bush had clearly crossed the line. 5/23 supports immunity unconditionally
7. Restoring the Everglades 2007, backed Bush''s veto of restoration of the park, 6/5/08, in favor of doing whatever''s necessary to save the Everglades.
8. Divestment from South Africa 6/2/08, AIPAC sanction Iran like South Africa. 1986, voted against those sanctions
9. Fighting job losses in MI January 2007, not the government''s job to bring back those jobs. 6/08, he would fight for new jobs
10. Opposing Katrina Investigations - 6/4/08 - "I''ve supported every investigation" 2005 & 2006 - voted against a commission to study government''s response. Opposed 3 separate emergency funding measures. - Reply to this comment
- We will start calling Obama by his new nickname "The Carp" due to all the flip flopping around he is becoming known for.
Posted by lorinkundert
I''m so glad you brought up flip-flopping!
McCain flip-flops in past 3 weeks - will take 3 posts to list them all!!
1. Social Security Privatization 11/18/04, for privatization. 6/13/08, "I''m not for privatizing Social Security. I never have been, I never will be."
2. Defense Spending 11/07, spend more on defense. 6/08 cut defense spending.
3. First Term Balanced Budget Pledge By 2013, then by 2017, now end of first term
4. Media''s treatment of Hillary Clinton, criticized the media, June 7th, said he did not.
5. Estate Tax 2006, was for it, last week, most unfair law on the books - Reply to this comment
- We will start calling Obama by his new nickname "The Carp" due to all the flip flopping around he is becoming known for.
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- Obama however did say He is glad prices are High Posted by Obama8years
Um, nope, he didn''t. Sorry. - Reply to this comment
- This also shows he''''s not in the pocket of MoveOn and other ultra liberal groups. I suppose that is now a bad thing to you righties, too.
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Posted by nanc12 at 04:14 PM : Jun 26, 2008
Good point nanc12, but it''ll be wasted on these "beasts". - Reply to this comment
