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Politico: Charles B. Rangel Was Behind Clinton's Exit From The Presidential Stage

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by taotxzen June 9, 2008 3:02 AM EDT
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by taotxzen June 9, 2008 2:55 AM EDT
The Corporate Media''s Dance:

McCain says, Obama says...and now for the weather. Hello?! Isn''t it your job to cut through all the spin and BS to get to the truth? I believe it use to be called ''journalism.'' I have always said do not listen to what a politician says, watch what they do. Apparently the Corporate media hasn''t figured this one out yet, surely they are not doing this on purpose...

If you want to know the unvarnished record of both candidates go to ontheissuies.com. Read, LEARN and vote! CNN, MSNBC, Fox News - ha, CBS, NBC and ABC you are welcome also...


If you want to know the unvarnished record of both cabdidates go to ontheissuies.com. Read, LEARN and vote!
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by taotxzen June 8, 2008 11:26 PM EDT
The thing that people need to realize is who will actually decide the election; the candidates, the corporate media or the voters? Just consider this, who will get the most time on the cooperate media; the actual candidates or the %u201Cspin doctors%u201D from each party that engage in the %u201Che said, she said%u201D crossfire version of campaign coverage that the corporate media loves?

Who is going to fact check any of these statements that these paid pundits make, the cooperate media? They will dominate the election coverage spewing any statement, however inaccurate and never be called on it.

Here%u2019s an example of fact versus %u201Cspin fiction%u201D:

Fact: According to Congressional Quarterly, Senator John McCain has voted with President Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007.

Spin Fiction: According to McCain policy advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin now argues that it is Senator Obama %u2013 not McCain %u2013 who wants to continue Bush%u2019s fiscal policies. Obama%u2019s budget %u201Cis dedicated to the recent Bush tradition of spending money on everything,%u201D he said.
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by hinnis June 8, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
In a CNN poll released Friday, 60 percent of Clinton supporters said they would vote for Obama, but 17 percent said they would vote for McCain and 22 percent, said they would not vote at all if Clinton were not the nominee.

THE FACT THAT MILLIONS OF DEMOCRATS WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA, IS GOOD NEWS FOR OUR COUNTRY.
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by likeitis5050 June 8, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
Politics suc.ks.....and it has nothing to do with ''we the people''. Strings are being pulled and our input is just for show. We might as well not even spend the time and effort to vote for someone...he''s already been elected. Hillary is stronger for this and perhaps has even gained some avid followers, but government lost a major foothold in the ''get out there a vote'' histrionics. Why? Politics is for bottom feeders and the majority of people who have to live with what they decide are too busy tredding water to actually see what is feeding at the bottom.
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by hinnis June 8, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
Obama, his supporters, the DNC, the party elite, and the mainstream media have conspired to marginalize the millions of Democrats who have voted for Hillary, and they will now be using every trick in the book to "bring the party together" to further their ruthless ambitions. They will want you to forget all about the months of biased press, the biased party elite, the insults, the sexist remarks, and the race-cards. They will want you to forget that the Democratic Party now is the party that stands for disenfranchisement of the voters and the rationalization of racism. They will use any method to persuade you to vote for the man who they have preordained as the Democratic nominee. DON''T FALL FOR IT!
Whether you write-in Hillary, if possible, vote for John McCain, or sit out the election, right now, for the sake of our families and our country, WE MUST DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER to assist in the defeat of the inexperienced, ruthless, deceptive, divisive, racist black liberation theology believing, race card throwing Obama. We can always come back to the Democratic Party if and when they show a desire to respect our participation, and field an acceptable candidate.
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by mcvet_ June 8, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
I saw the video as well? Big whoop. I just wish they did not steal it from Hillary!
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by obarnabyears June 8, 2008 6:24 PM EDT
After looking at this video I can no Longer support Barack Obama!
http://www.youtube.com
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by rufisgufis June 8, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
McBUSH FOR A THIRD TERM! NOT
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by rufisgufis June 8, 2008 6:11 PM EDT
Even if I liked Obama, I just do NOT believe in or support the Democratic Party platform.

Posted by minnick8 at 03:03 PM : Jun 08, 2008
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Then you''ll just love McCain. IF YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY, LIKE THIS NEVER-ENDING WAR, LIKE PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES, LIKE THE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH, IF YOU CAN''T WAIT TO INVADE IRAN, IF YOU LIKE THE UNFAIR TRADE POLICIES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHIPPING OUR JOBS OVERSEAS, IF YOU LIKE THE LOSS OF THE WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS, IF YOU LIKE ILLEGAL WIRETAPS, IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE. IF YOU LIKE THE FACT THAT THE US IS ONE OF THE MOST REVILED NATIONS ON THE PLANET, THEN YOU''LL JUST LOVE McCAIN.


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by minnick8-2009 June 8, 2008 6:03 PM EDT
rufisgufis

I do look forward to the overturning of Roe vs. Wade, and I am a woman. I have always thought it appalling that the killing of the innocent, unborn was an acceptable method of birth control in our society. Since Roe vs. Wade, millions of potential human beings have been killed in a modern-day holocaust for the convenience of women who could have used birth control pills, condoms, and a sence of morality in their actions. I do believe in abortion for the safety of the mother and in cases of rape and incest.

Even if I liked Obama, I just do NOT believe in or support the Democratic Party platform.
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by minnick8-2009 June 8, 2008 5:58 PM EDT
Hinnis,

I love your comments; you are right on. Keep up the good work.
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by rufisgufis June 8, 2008 5:58 PM EDT
YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY, LIKE THIS NEVER-ENDING WAR, LIKE PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES, LIKE THE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH, IF YOU CAN''T WAIT TO INVADE IRAN, IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE END OF ROE V. WADE. IF YOU LIKE THE UNFAIR TRADE POLICIES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHIPPING OUR JOBS OVERSEAS, IF YOU LIKE THE LOSS OF THE WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS, IF YOU LIKE ILLEGAL WIRETAPS, IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE. IF YOU LIKE THE FACT THAT THE US IS ONE OF THE MOST REVILED NATIONS ON THE PLANET, THEN YOU''LL JUST LOVE McCAIN.
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by minnick8-2009 June 8, 2008 5:52 PM EDT
In 1976, Jimmy Carter ran on CHANGE. Sound familiar? Carter took 23 states with 297 electoral votes, while Ford won 27 states and 240 electoral votes. I can%u2019t remember what, if anything changed. Carter was voted out four years later when he lost to Ronald Reagan.

The bottom line is that I don%u2019t believe that Obama has any more power to change anything than did Jimmy Carter. If he wins this election, it will surprise me if he has enough of a following to win re-election in 2012.
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by minnick8-2009 June 8, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
The 1972 the Democratic Convention was held in Miami Beach, Florida. It nominated Senator George McGovern for President and Senator Thomas Eagleton for Vice President. Eagleton later withdrew from the race when it was disclosed that he had undergone mental health treatment (including electroshock therapy. He was replaced on the ballot by Sargent Shriver. The McGovern-Shriver ticket lost by a landslide to Richard Nixon. McGovern was going to be the Savior of the Democratic party and the young Democrats just knew he was going to win the election and make everything right.

Through the 1970s, the United States underwent a wrenching period of low economic growth, high inflation and interest rates, and an energy crises. There was also a sense of malaise that in both foreign and domestic affairs the nation was headed downward. Does history repeat itself?
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by minnick8-2009 June 8, 2008 5:49 PM EDT
The 1968 Democratic Convention took place in Chicago. In 1967, protests groups had been promising to come to Chicago and disrupt the convention, and the city promised to maintain law and order. For eight days, protesters and police battled for control of the streets of Chicago. When Senator Abraham Ribicoff (D-Conn) delivered a speech nominating George McGovern for President, he infuriated Mayor Daley by saying, "with George McGovern as President of the United States, we wouldn''t have Gestapo tactics in the streets of Chicago."[21] Daley responded by shaking his fist at Ribicoff, and shouting a phrase that was inaudible. "Most reports of the event also say Daley yelled an off-color epithet beginning with an "F," but according to CNN executive producer Jack Smith, others close to Daley insist he shouted ''Faker,'' meaning Ribicoff was not a man of his word. In the General election in November, Republican Richard M. Nixon narrowly won the election over Democrat Hubert H. Humphrey.

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by minnick8-2009 June 8, 2008 5:49 PM EDT
I take great comfort in the history of the Democratic National Conventions going back to 1964. Except for Bill Clinton who actually turned out better than I expected, the Democrats have a dreary track record of coming up with someone who actually performs successfully as President and is also re-electable.

The 1964 Democratic Convention resulted in the nomination of the incumbent Lyndon B. Johnson (who had been vice president under John F. Kennedy) of Texas for President and Senator Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota for Vice President. Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, escalated the war in Vietnam. He was so unpopular by 1968, he announced he would not seek or accept nomination to the Presidency at the 1968 Convention.

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by rufisgufis June 8, 2008 5:44 PM EDT
IF YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY, LIKE THIS NEVER-ENDING WAR, LIKE PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES, LIKE THE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH, IF YOU CAN''T WAIT TO INVADE IRAN, IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE END OF ROE V. WADE. IF YOU LIKE THE UNFAIR TRADE POLICIES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHIPPING OUR JOBS OVERSEAS, IF YOU LIKE THE FACT THAT THE US IS ONE OF THE MOST REVILED NATIONS ON THE PLANET, THEN YOU''LL JUST LOVE McCAIN.


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by rufisgufis June 8, 2008 5:39 PM EDT
IF YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY, LIKE THIS NEVER-ENDING WAR, LIKE PAYING HIGH GAS PRICES, LIKE THE TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH, IF YOU CAN''T WAIT TO INVADE IRAN, IF YOU LOOK FORWARD TO THE END OF ROE V. WADE. IF YOU LIKE THE UNFAIR TRADE POLICIES IF YOU LIKE THE FACT THAT THE US IS ONE OF THE MOST REVILED NATIONS ON THE PLANET, THEN YOU''LL JUST LOVE McCAIN.
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by hinnis June 8, 2008 5:36 PM EDT
I think the DNC and party elite have grossly underestimated the fury they have unleashed by attempting to shove Obama down our throats. Now that the Democratic Party has become the party of disenfranchisement and racism, I have no allegiance to it. I''ve spoken to many people about this, and we feel that it''s our solemn responsibility to help defeat Obama in November. Better a centrist Republican (tempered by a Democratic House and Senate), than an inexperienced, ruthless, deceptive, divisive, racist black liberation theology believing, terrorist befriending, race card throwing Obama.
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