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[rowdytexan2]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/11/opinion/main4009369.shtml

There you go! It''s posted right here on the CBS website!

But a little conveniently not put out front so you can see it. You have to dig for it!

[mpgeglia2]

ROwdywicca-I''d like to see where you get your information. It''s compelling but it also sounds like you just made it up.

[blackspirit3]

A 1969 charge by a Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University
In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, who was a law student at the college
In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse.
Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton''s attorney general campaign, said he raped her in 1978;
From 1978-1980, during Clinton''s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually.
Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have *** with him shortly after she won her state crown.
Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room.
Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says in 1991 Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress.
Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993.

[rowdywicca]

Barak and Michelle Obama INVITED William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn to join then as professors at Chicago University and started teaching those young students black liberation theology!

William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn are NOT just associated with terrorists, they ARE terrorists who bombed the US! Who preach and teach their krap to kids!

Bernadine Dohrn at one of their meetings was cackling about the Manson murders, and how they stuck a fork in the dead Sharon Tate''s pregnant stomach, and that because she''s rich and elite, she DESERVED it!

People get a clue!

[obama8years]

Jimmy Carter Endorses Obama
Jimmy Carter is Pro-Hamas
Rev Wright is Pro-Hamas
Is Obama just giving the jews lip service and will support Hamas when in Office. He did say in his book, that if the winds of politics change he will take sides with the Muslims. Rev wright had pro-hamas material in the church bulletin. Rev Wright and Farakahn both went over seas to visit Mommar Kadafi.
Obama pastor of 20 years gave Louis Farakahn a Lifetime acheivement Award. Of course he would give that racist an award. Vote for anyone but Obama, write in a name if you have too.

[fuzzybear9]

Hello Bitter Democratic Party Mmebers

Yes Bitter because the Kenedy Protoge`e
has dropped over 25 points in two days in the
Pennsylvania Polls , and he has become Bitter.

Bitter because now all those Chicago votes become Dead

Bitter because the Black Camillian really shows his colors now.

Bitter because The Ebineazar Baptist Church is found to be dissolusioned

yes we have Bitter right here in River City
Thats a capital B and rhyms with T and that spells Trouble yes right here in River City.

sincerely still looking for a Presidential Candidate Bear
Fuzzy

[rowdywicca]

%u201COut of touch? Out of touch? I mean, John McCain - it took him three tries to finally figure out that the home foreclosure crisis was a problem,%u201D he said."

It took Obama 12 months to come up with an economic plan. Or even to address a real issue this country has. For 12 months all he did was tear his opponent down because he had NOTHING to build himself up with!

Hillary Clinton posted her economic plan months ago, and has been speaking to it and presenting this country with the state we''re in, and how to get us out of it.

[blackspirit3]

IN 1992 THE CLINTONS WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO FIX THINGS

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

IN 2008 LETS SEND THEM BACK TO FINISH THEIR JOB

[lindaredtail]

I''m finding this conversation extremely interesting. A great many of the minority churches preach like Reverend Wright. There are just as many if not more that preach white anti-minority rhetoric as I had the great displeasure to discover while traveling. The nastiness goes in both directions. These are all people who refuse to enter the present and embrace the future by rejecting the past which is what we need to do. I saw a Native American and all his beliefs put upon by a group of white people in a convenience store. When I stood up for him I was told that I did not understand. Racism and reverse racism are still pervasive in our society. Sometimes we even see it in intellectualism in a form which appears esoteric but it really isn''t. People running for office need to be careful who they associate with. Whether a minister or a scholar a rascist is still a rascist.

[rowdywicca]

The mainstream media is finally coming out with Obama''s krappy associations and letting the world get a peek at him, because the Neocons are finally allowing them to. But they conveniently waited until AFTER super Tuesday to do it! Because they know they can rip this shill to pieces in the general election.

[rowdywicca]

You''''re really scared to death of a man who isn''''t a Cracker being President aren''''t you? The entire nation could go right down the crapper as far as you''''re concerned as long as the "Party" is in power?? Wow! What branch of the Klan do you belong to Sparky?? Sieg Heil Bush


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Posted by MCVet at 08:22 AM : Apr 16, 2008

I''m not scared of a *** thing, except this country in the hands of a corrupt shill.

I had Dubya forced down my throat four times by the media. And he was a total failure, just like Obama is.

I''m not about to sit back and buy another one just as a bad a Dubya!

[rowdywicca]

Ayres, too, provided a minor ($200) contribution to Obama, in 2001. That was the year of September 11, just a few days before the Times published its excerpt of Ayres%u2019s remembrances of bombings past. Read the short interview and ask yourself: Could anyone, let alone someone as sophisticated as Barack Obama, chat with Bill Ayers for about 30 seconds and not know exactly where is coming from?

Could they really have been friends? Well, Ayers is virtually channeling Michelle Obama and Jeremiah Wright when he wails that American %u201Csociety is not a just and fair and decent place.%u201D

%u201CGod, what a great country,%u201D he scoffed to the Times. %u201CIt makes me want to puke.%u201D

Hey, right back at you there, Professor. At least that%u2019s how most of us are likely to feel. But not Sen. Obama. And that%u2019s why Ayers -- like Khalidi and Wright and Michelle Obama, and others who know the senator well while we%u2019ve been told precious little -- sees in Barack Obama the change he%u2019s been waiting for.

No thanks.

[rowdywicca]

For Khalidi, though, greener pastures called: the opportunity to become a professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University. There, he now directs Edward Said%u2019s legacy: Columbia%u2019s notoriously Israel-bashing Middle East Institute -- though, much to the University%u2019s chagrin, he was scratched in 2005 from a program designed educate teachers on instructing their young students about the Middle East. New York City schools chancellor Joel Klein concluded Khalidi%u2019s splenetic meanderings mightn%u2019t be the best model.

They didn%u2019t faze Barack Obama, though. He was front and center with Ayers and Dohrn at a farewell bash when Khalidi left Chicago for New York. It was only right. Khalidi, after all, had hosted a fundraiser for Obama in 2000, when the latter launched an unsuccessful campaign for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. And so it goes. A few weeks ago, Khalidi told worldnetdaily.com he supports Obama%u2019s presidential run %u201Cbecause he is the only candidate who has expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause,%u201D and because Obama has promised negotiations with Iran.

[rowdywicca]

RASHID KHALIDI
In the interim, Ayers and Obama had teamed up for three years on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago charitable organization. Together, they voted to donate $75,000 of the largesse they controlled to the Arab American Action Network. The AAAN was co-founded by Rashid Khalidi, a longtime supporter of Palestinian %u201Cresistance%u201D attacks against Israel, which he openly regards as a racist, apartheid state. Despite considerable evidence to the contrary, Khalidi peremptorily denies having been a PLO operative or having directed its official press agency for six years (from 1976 to 1982). There can be no gainsaying, though, that he was an influential apologist for Yasser Arafat, the terror master who spawned two Intifadas and ordered the murder of American diplomats.

In the mean, besotted United States, of course, being a terrorist, a terror apologist, or simply raging at the machine qualifies one for a cushy academic soapbox. Thus did Khalidi eventually land on his feet at the University of Chicago, where he ran in the same circles as Associate Dean Michelle Obama, Law Professor Barack Obama, University of Illinois-Chicago Education Professor Bill Ayers, and Northwestern Law Professor Bernadine Dohrn (who prepared for a career in instructing future officers of the court with a stint in federal prison for flouting a judge%u2019s order that she testify in a grand jury investigation into the Weathermen%u2019s infamous Brinks robbery-murders).

[rowdywicca]

Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice[.]
The other panelists included %u201CIllinois State Sen. Barack Obama %u2026 who is working to block proposed legislation that would throw more juvenile offenders into the adult system.%u201D The goal was to promote change, to actuate the vision of %u201CChicago reformer%u201D Jane Addams, who%u2019d sought %u201Cthe establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a %u2018kind and just parent%u2019 for children in crisis.%u201D Never mind the crises they%u2019d caused the victims of their wanton murders and mayhem -- the fault for those, surely, was our downright mean society.

The Ayers and Obama, meantime, kept up. There was yet another panel in 2002, Obama and Ayers waxing on %u201CIntellectuals in Times of Crisis.%u201D Dohrn, too, was asked to weigh in, on a panel addressing the question, %u201CWhy Do Ideas Matter?%u201D I%u2019m sure it was, er, wild.

[rowdywicca]

It was at the Chicago home of Ayers and Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming %u201Ccommunity organizer,%u201D had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World -- where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working %u201Conly to educate%u201D -- both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers.

Barack Obama made a joint appearance with Bill Ayers in 1997 at a University of Chicago panel on the outrage of treating juvenile criminals as if they were, well, criminals. Obama apologists say, %u201CSo what? People appear with other people all the time.%u201D Nice try. This panel was orchestrated by none other than Michelle Obama, then an Associate Dean of Student Services. Ayers didn%u2019t happen to be there -- he was invited by the Obamas to educate students on the question before the house: %u201CShould a Child Ever Be Called a %u2018Super Predator?%u2019%u201D

And here%u2019s how the University%u2019s press release chose to describe this would-be super predator:
William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says %u201CWe should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn%u2019t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?%u201D

[rowdywicca]

For them, that makes all the difference. It%u2019s not terror, just chickens coming home to roost. %u201CTerrorists destroy randomly,%u201D Ayers rationalizes with nauseating arrogance, %u201Cwhile our actions bore ... the precise stamp of a cut diamond. Terrorists intimidate, while we aimed only to educate.%u201D Right. As her companion Discover the Networks profile illustrates, Dohrn now goes even further: insisting their bombings weren%u2019t terrorist acts at all: %u201CWe rejected terrorism. We were careful not to hurt anybody.%u201D

Maybe she%u2019s forgotten the %u201Cbastards getting what was coming to them%u201D part. Or maybe she%u2019s just lying. She was, we can be confident, something less than a model of compassion back then -- like at the Weathermen %u201CWar Council%u201D meeting in 1969, when she famously gushed over the barbaric Manson Family murders of the pregnant actress Sharon Tate, coffee heiress Abigail Folger, and three others: %u201CDig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim%u2019s stomach! Wild!%u201D

Charming. The %u201CWar Council,%u201D it should be noted, concluded by first condemning the United States for -- what else? -- its pervasive racism, then formally declaring war against what the Weathermen called %u201CAmeriKKKa.%u201D Rev. Wright would have understood.

[rowdywicca]

Yes, McVet, I know the CLINTON''S handed Mr. Bush a balanced budget and a tremendously well run country!

I do not want to see this country put in the hands of this anti-American shill bringing corrupt Chicago politics to the White House!

[rowdywicca]

Ayers didn%u2019t just carry a sign outside the Pentagon on May 19, 1972. He bombed it. As his memoir gleefully recalled, %u201CEverything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon. The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the *** were finally going to get what was coming to them.%u201D

Whether Pentagon bombing day was more or less ideal than other days, when he, Dohrn and their Weathermen comrades bombed the U.S. Capitol, the State Department, and sundry banks, police stations and courthouses, Ayers does not say. But on each occasion, there was surely optimism that the *** were finally going to get what was coming to them.

There were lots of bombs. There is no remorse. %u201CI don%u2019t regret setting bombs,%u201D he told the New York Times in 2001, sorry only that he and the others %u201Cdidn%u2019t do enough.%u201D Like what? We can%u2019t be sure, though National Review Online%u2019s Jonah Goldberg recounts Ayers%u2019s sentiments back in the day: %u201CKill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that%u2019s where it%u2019s really at.%u201D

Ayers and Dohrn have done the actual dirty work of terror, while Jeremiah Wright draws the line at waving pom-poms. But the prism through which they assay the dirty work is precisely the same: America has it coming.

[rowdywicca]

BILL AYERS AND BERNADINE DOHRN
With this as background, is it really all that startling that Sen. Obama enjoys a friendly relationship with Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, a pair of terrorists?

I want to be clear here: Not terrorist sympathizers. Terrorists.

The mainstream media, in their zeal to elect a Democrat, are assiduously airbrushing Ayers: %u201Can aging lefty with a foolish past,%u201D as the Chicago Sun-Times has so delicately put it. In fact, it is the press that is rife with foolish, aging lefties. Ayers, by contrast, is an unapologetic terrorist with a savage past -- one who beat the system he so reviles when, after his years of fugitivity, terrorism charges were dropped due to government surveillance violations. He%u2019s %u201Cguilty as sin,%u201D by his own concession, but %u201Cfree as a bird.%u201D