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Politico: Americans' Feelings On War In Iraq Likely To Shape Presidential Race

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by mortok99 March 14, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
Here''s what you should do: You should tax those companies that move overseas for that cheap unregulated labor thats below american standards enough that it no longer becomes a competitive issue that these companies should pack up and leave. Because they''re already established there.. in these local towns. And that cost of moving becomes the issue.
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by Latrocinor March 14, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
I"ll do it for you, boohoo.

Posted by bhoogren
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A name caller. A denigrator. A dehumanizer. A ridiculer.

So much for intellectual capability or honesty. Forget it. Enjoy your smearing.
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by iceman_1960 March 14, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
The Department of Defense has published Bush"s military records.

It does contain a lot of s*uck-up comments by the guys who helped Bush get into the Tang.

BUT IT ALSO CONTAINS HIS SCORE ON THE PILOT APTITUDE TEST. (Some flunkie forgot to blank it out)

Scroll down in the following PDF and look carefully. There"s the box:

Pilot
25


(The average score was 70)

http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/bush_records/personnel_pt2.pdf



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by Latrocinor March 14, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
I"ll do it for you, boohoo.

He was in the TANG at a time when it had a huge waiting list, and he got in with minimal qualifications but a well connected father.

If it was that easy to join the air wing of the Texas National Guard during the bloodiest year of the war, that Vietnam Memorial Wall would have about 20 names on it.

Posted by Iceman_1960
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What''s this have to do with what I am writing about??
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by mortok99 March 14, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
Fer example, ya couldn''t go up to a fella who couldn''t talk and say: "Yer moot!" You''d say: "You can''t talk!".
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by iceman_1960 March 14, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
"I have a better idea. Back up YOUR claim he didn''''t volunteer or YOU shut up."
- Posted by bhoogren at 11:47 AM : Mar 14, 2008
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I"ll do it for you, boohoo.

He was in the TANG at a time when it had a huge waiting list, and he got in with minimal qualifications but a well connected father.

If it was that easy to join the air wing of the Texas National Guard during the bloodiest year of the war, that Vietnam Memorial Wall would have about 20 names on it.
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by bluestardad March 14, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
POLITICO NOW THAT IS AN OBJECTIVE MAGAZINE!

STRAIGHT FROM THE AIPAC PRESSES OF CRAWFORD TEXAS!

WE BELIEVE U.

SEND THE ISRAELIS AND BUSHIT BOYS FROM OUR GOVERNMENT TO IRAQ TO FIGHT AND THEIR CHILDREN THEN SEE HOW QUICK THIS IRAQ MESS GETS CLEARED UP...

BETTER YET LETS START WAR CRIMES TRIALS ON THESE GUYS! TO SEE HOW THIS WAR REALY GOT STARTED!

AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP!
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by jersupporter March 14, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
Fantastic response, Jer. Posted by sigotratando
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Thanks and please note that my traitor comments were aimed at one particular individual that spews hatred and insensitive words that are hurtful to the countless numbers of Europeans during World War II.
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by Latrocinor March 14, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
You are committed to the Bush smear campaign. Enjoy!
Posted by bhoogren

Nice answer - just like your hero - no evidence to back up your claim. You''''re just a liar like shrub. Like I say, back it up or shut it up.

Posted by nokoolaid
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I have a better idea. Back up YOUR claim he didn''t volunteer or YOU shut up.
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by sigotratando March 14, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
Posted by JERSupporter
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Fantastic response, Jer.
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by jersupporter March 14, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
What is "failure" by your estimation? Posted by sigotratando
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Failure is all in perception in many ways. To leave the countless numbers of Iraqis that are committed to democracy principles would be one of the benchmarks of failure. I agree that we should have never gone into this, but we have to pursue a negotiable compromise that creates favorable conditions for the Iraqi government and people. I have personally served in Iraq and saw the numerous successes that the Coalition has made in that country. I have also worked with Iraqis and understand the individual committment and sacrifice they have sustained. Fully understand that with the US economic conditions, we need to start looking at a withdrawl plan that can sustain our promised committment to both the Iraqi government and people. That is the fine line that is frustrating. I am in no way a Bush administration fan, but I honestly believe all this rhetoric hating is a waste of time.
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by blkpresident March 14, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
Obama has said he will end this war, so all the support for it won''t matter. Wonder who really "supports" this war--oh yeah, HALLIBURTON, etc. Obama will steamroll halliburton and all the other "supporters" of this war.
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by Latrocinor March 14, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
I"m looking for records of his attempts to get into the United States Marines so he could go fight in Vietnam.

Posted by Iceman_1960
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He was a Air Force NG fighter pilot so you look under Marines.

That''s logical for a person under the influence of smear.
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by Latrocinor March 14, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
You"re damned right Bush is stupid.

Shame on millions of voters like you, who voted for him because you liked his Texas drawl.

What do you call any American, much less a "President," who gets all tongue-tied trying to say "State of the Union" ?

I call him an IDIOT:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o4D
ykmZz_YA


Posted by Iceman_1960
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I have you pegged perfectly. You are an ASSUMER. You assume to satisfy your PRESUMPTIONS and ASSUMPTIONS that are based on passion rather than truth hunger.

I voted for Kerry so your gut feeling betrayed you.

By your definition of stupid Helen Keller was a retarded idiot.
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by iceman_1960 March 14, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
"Iceman...Bush can not fly fighter planes. His squadron in Montgomery had no planes. He skipped flight physicals and was removed from status flight pay. Is this what you were looking for?"
- Posted by cav_03 at 11:28 AM : Mar 14, 2008
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I"m looking for records of his attempts to get into the United States Marines so he could go fight in Vietnam.
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by sigotratando March 14, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
The American people (except you traitor failure types) want to see our troops succeed and do not believe that a surrender is in the best interest of this nation. But I am quite sure you will continue your traitor failure type rhetoric... Do not deny the proud accomplishments that our Soldiers, Marines, Airmen and Sailors have completed and will continue to pursue...
Posted by JERSupporter

It is not logical to say that winding down our presence in Iraq is ''surrender'', since no one wants a protracted, never-ending engagement unless war/conflict is an end in itself. My take on the poll data is that people do support the troops & what now must be the measure of success, but that does not mean they "support" the war. I, for one, do not agree with this war, but I certainly support the troops & am proud of their accomplishments, however misguided the reason for being there.

"Failure" now is a pretty relative term considering that the measure of success has had to change by virtue of finding the original reasons for being there were non-existent. One measure is getting the country solidly on its feet, but the measure of solidity seems pretty arbitrary. And it is equally arbitrary, & particularly horrifying, that someone would apply the term "traitor" to another person who disagrees with him.

What is "failure" by your estimation?
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by shanev137 March 14, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
I ain''t buying this story.

The majority of Americans want us out of Iraq right now.

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by iceman_1960 March 14, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
"You are probably one of those who thinks Bush is stupid and Kerry has a higher IQ than him."
- Posted by bhoogren at 11:15 AM : Mar 14, 2008
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You"re damned right Bush is stupid.

Shame on millions of voters like you, who voted for him because you liked his Texas drawl.

What do you call any American, much less a "President," who gets all tongue-tied trying to say "State of the Union" ?

I call him an IDIOT:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o4DykmZz_YA

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by iceman_1960 March 14, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
RE: Post by trapbreak at 11:12 AM : Mar 14, 2008

If you"re going to tell lies, don"t tell clumsy ones.

You couldn"t avoid the draft in those days by "fleeing to England."

England did not offer shelter to draft resisters.

Canada did. And Canada was a lot closer.

Clinton went to England because that was the only place to pursue a Rhodes Scholarship.
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by navychief8 March 14, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
Posted by Navychief8 at 10:36 AM : Mar 14, 2008


Chief, you need to read the post I was responding to which claims we need to talk to those who have served. I copied your excellent post in response and called the poster a loser. Thank you for your service.


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Posted by mbcsmith at 11:06 AM : Mar 14, 2008

My apologies for the misunderstanding. and thanks.

I know there are different opinions about the war and I accept each persons point of view. My intention was to share information that in my opinion is not reported about. Since I learned of my assignment to USACE, I have spent a lot of time learning about their mission (all open source info), and the more I read the more I came to appreciate the chance I have to go and doe something worth while. When the ACE came to Iraq in 2004, roughly 200 projects had been completed. Today, almost 4000 have been completed. And one of the biggest differences is Iraqis are being employed in large numbers to do the work. This includes Engineers, skilled and unskilled labor. If you have a meaningful job, your going to be less likely to be up to no good. And I think that last part is true the world over. Additionaly, a big part of USACE''s job is to train Iraqi builders and Engineers to be self sufficent. Tehy have been learning to build better, QA work and maintain what is being built. Check out the USACE website if you get a chance.
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