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by formrusmcsgt February 8, 2008 11:52 AM EST
Posted by sara48909 at 08:44 AM : Feb 08, 2008

Experience is not all that it''s cracked up to be, either.

After two terms of running the second largest state in the union, dubya took us into two unwinnable wars and cleaved our constitutional rights.....
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by pepperp1 February 8, 2008 11:44 AM EST
I would also add before I get all the negative response from anyone who disagrees with my earlier statements I was a looking very closely at Obama, I was hoping against hope this man could fix America but I am convinced this is a ploy from a man who has a gift to project what we Americans have waited to hear. He is smart all right, he took all that and used it, and used us, I thought he was genuine, but after his super Tuesday speech I saw him for what he is doing and listen to your media.Unbelievable how we believe isn''''t it?


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Posted by starleo14672 at 08:11 AM : Feb 08, 2008



oh you mean of course the

creepy messianic stuff
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"We are the ones we''ve been waiting for"

or was it the

Repeat after me we NEED change, we NEED hope, we NEED me I am O part


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by sara48909 February 8, 2008 11:44 AM EST
It isn''t like it was when Lincoln or Washington were presidents. What goes on around the world effects our country every day. The inexperience of Kennedy brought us the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missle Crisis. Kennedy brought us the closest this country ever came to nuclear war. Children had nuclear fallout drills twice a week at school where the bells would ring and we would hide under our desks or out in the halls with our arms covering our heads. Then we had Carter and his inexperience brought us inflation, unemployment, and the Iran debacle. Anyone who says all anyone has to do is hire people who know what they are doing should look to Reagan. Due to his Alzeimers his inner circle ran the government and we ended up with the Iran-Contra Affair in direct opposition to the laws governing our country. And that was just the most public wrongdoing. And every single one of you have ween what Bush''s inexperience has done to this country. Due to his ignoring those administrators outside his inner circle and Clinton and his advisors we ended up with 9/11. The only reason why Bush hasn''t been impeached for this is because everyone is afraid it will make people feel sorry for him. Obama does not have the experience to run this country. He has a lot of great soundbites, but no real plans for anything. It is Kennedy, Carter, Reagan, and Bush all over again.Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The problem is that you end up dragging all the rest of us down with you.
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by voter1111 February 8, 2008 11:42 AM EST
Two debates? .......this is the primary for the nomination. He himself stated after agreeing to one debate that he prefered getting out and talking to people to debating. His power is not in debating with Hillary who simply knows more than he does and is more gracious. His power is in making speechaes and he and his campaign know it. Get real. Two debates...? It''s a concession to criticism he can''t avoid if he doesnt do it.
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by pepperp1 February 8, 2008 11:41 AM EST
%u2026%u2026%u2026..Oh please this from the .com reporters who themselves admit to being O press groupies coordinating meals, flights, trips to the bar hanging out with O followers.....

Call you emag what it is, an O propagandist and fundraiser...............and what your feeling about scientology and Tom Cruise.............lol


Send O money, we need O, we need hope, we need change, break into those piggy banks O needs money lots and lots of money

Yeah yeah WE know your blinded by the light that is O not just bad journalist %u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026
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by formrusmcsgt February 8, 2008 11:36 AM EST
That''''s why he is uninclined to debate.

Posted by voter1111 at 08:26 AM : Feb 08, 2008

Your arguments would be more pursuasive if they actually had something to do with fact....

February 7, 2008
OMAHA, Nebraska (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama agreed on Thursday to hold two more debates with rival Hillary Clinton before March 4, officials from his campaign said.

more stories like thisOne debate will take place on February 26 in Cleveland, Ohio. The other will take place in Texas on a date to be determined.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/08/obama_agrees_to_two_more_debates_with_clinton/
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by voter1111 February 8, 2008 11:26 AM EST
B-easy,
That''s an interesting theory. Why do you think Hillary took Mass? Just curious. I tend to think Bill just pissed off Teddy. lol The other thing I find amusing....
I actually do hear Obama making speeches very reminiscent of JFK. A little like MLK too.... It''s actually one of the big reasons I don''t like Obama...
It''s almost like he studied there voice inflection and the power of using "We" instead of "I" ...which does play on the decent impulse of people to come together......but he leaves me bored and empty...as if he is just mimicing what worked for truely dynamic leaders. He says very little, other than that he and his followers are united and powerful. That''s why he is uninclined to debate. In any case, I wonder about the whole Kennedy clan thing..... but it is interesting.
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by formrusmcsgt February 8, 2008 11:19 AM EST
Whitepicks2: It was Obama''''s union people that were trying to stop anyone who walked in the rooms at the caucauses from voting for Edwards or Clinton in Las Vegas. I was there. When I and my sons headed for the side of the room away from Obama''''s people they came up to us and tried to physically steer us over to their side of the room. Fortunately my sons were with me and they were able to make them release us. So whoever told you the Clintons were disenfranchising people lied to you.

Posted by carainla at 08:12 AM : Feb 08, 2008

I caucased as well here in Las Vegas and saw no such attempts as you described.
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by formrusmcsgt February 8, 2008 11:18 AM EST
"The bottom line is that it figures to be another month before Clinton hits a stetch of states - places like Ohio and Pennsylvania - where she will be strongly favored to win."

If Obama manages 7 straight vitories, as expected, even the folks in these states may noy be so hot for Hillary. Especially if her catty side shows as it tends to when things aren''t to her liking....
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by mikeant50 February 8, 2008 11:15 AM EST
I am so sick of hearing about how great the economy was under Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is not running, Hillary is. If Hillary is nominated, she doesn''t have to pick a VP. She can pull a Putin and make Bill her VP. I feel sorry for whoever is his VP selection if she is nominated. She would probably take Bill''s advice over her VP.
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by carainla February 8, 2008 11:12 AM EST
Whitepicks2: It was Obama''s union people that were trying to stop anyone who walked in the rooms at the caucauses from voting for Edwards or Clinton in Las Vegas. I was there. When I and my sons headed for the side of the room away from Obama''s people they came up to us and tried to physically steer us over to their side of the room. Fortunately my sons were with me and they were able to make them release us. So whoever told you the Clintons were disenfranchising people lied to you.
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by hillaryin08 February 8, 2008 11:12 AM EST
As a reasonably objctive (foreign) observer of your nomination process, I frankly am astounded at the blatant media bias that exists against Hillary Clinton. I have no allegiances, expectations or desires regarding the outcome, but I can assure that an overt anti-Hillary flavour exudes across the US media.

F Bergin
Brisbane, Australia


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Posted by fbergin at 04:37 AM : Feb 08, 2008

You must be watching Fox

ABC, NBC, PMSNBC and CBS are pro Clinton.
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by starleo146 February 8, 2008 11:11 AM EST
I would also add before I get all the negative response from anyone who disagrees with my earlier statements I was a looking very closely at Obama, I was hoping against hope this man could fix America but I am convinced this is a ploy from a man who has a gift to project what we Americans have waited to hear. He is smart all right, he took all that and used it, and used us, I thought he was genuine, but after his super Tuesday speech I saw him for what he is doing and listen to your media.Unbelievable how we believe isn''t it?
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by sara48909 February 8, 2008 10:59 AM EST
Its past time for the media to turn the spotlight on Obama. Someone needs to report what is in his two books. Someone needs to report that his website fails to demonstrate any plans for how he intends to achieve these ideas he has. Someone should be reporting all the ideas he has stolen from Clinton. Someone needs to point out how the media is hiding news like this:

NUCLEAR LEAKS AND RESPONSE TESTED OBAMA IN SENATE
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp&oref=slogin
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by starleo146 February 8, 2008 10:58 AM EST
I saw Obama as a beautiful speaker who feels the pain of America and knows how to reach that pain and inspire them to think he is the Savior of all our pain.Well he showed who Obama was really for in the Super Tuesday speech after he had won 12 states, and said,"We have arrived", was that for all Americans that quote or to the blacks in this country. Is Obama really for all Americans? I started to listen very carefully to his speeches and he has a agenda all right to be the first black president and to finally get it for black America.He had to first convince Blacks that Clinton was a racist after all, unbelievable, it worked and every black who are known for sticking together rallied for Obama.LOOK CAREFULLY and listen carefully, this is hype performed so well, and the media is right behind him, why, because they hate Clinton. I am amazed at how easily we are duped by our wonderful unbiased media, who should report the news without all their analysis and projections as to what they perceived to be the course we should take.
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by gdmoore2 February 8, 2008 8:57 AM EST
F Bergin: Thank you for your independent eye. U.S. voters see the anti-Hillary media bias as well. The obvious pass being given to Obama is causing many Democrats to dig in and support Hillary. Despite these problems, many of us hope for a Clinton/Obama ticket, setting the stage for 4 consecutive terms of Democratic leadership in the Presidency.
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by fbergin February 8, 2008 7:37 AM EST
As a reasonably objctive (foreign) observer of your nomination process, I frankly am astounded at the blatant media bias that exists against Hillary Clinton. I have no allegiances, expectations or desires regarding the outcome, but I can assure that an overt anti-Hillary flavour exudes across the US media.

F Bergin
Brisbane, Australia
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by b-easy63 February 8, 2008 6:39 AM EST
He will be told of ultimate sacrifice, of Kennedy''''s belief and what a future great leader he will be--but how right now--the most important thing is for the party to capture the WH as well as hold Congress--he will be reminded that this all is bigger than him--and Obama? Will he cave in and bow to party over principle? I don''''t think anyone knows--but just in case, Hilary has been willing to allow Kennedy to endorse Obama now, so that she can reap the benefits later. All of this is obvious, as is the fact the DNC have no intention of allowing any but Hilary if they can help it. watch. Anyone here read Dune (not watched the movie--read the book) Kennedy''''s move is a classic ploy-the question is, when he has to make his gambit to rein the losing Obama back in--can he? Or will Obama refuse the VP or other carrots and will he not stump or implore on Clinton''''s behalf--because if he indicates she is not worth voting for--many followers may emulate his sentiment--and the DNC dare not let that come to pass--just like they dare not let him win. ONe wonders if Michelle is not also aware of the gambit and is why she states quite openly, that she might not support Hilary over McCain? What should have been a dream election time for the Clintons and the DNC could end up being their worst nightmare.

The gamble is that Obama will trust Kennedy and respect him enough to do what he says--he will never know that this was thought and planned out by the DNC and Billary in the first place.
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by b-easy63 February 8, 2008 6:37 AM EST
Games within games, strategies within strategies, and agendas within agendas. I think Kennedy endorsed Obama with the DNC AND Hilary''''s blessing. His job is to play elder statesman and king maker on the surface but really his job is to placate Obama and convince him to support Hilary in the face of a loss whether by actual delegates or the decision of the DNC. Right now, Obama represents a very dangerous element. He has garnered soo much support and inspired such loyalty that an indication from him that Hilary and Bill are not worth supporting could be enough to persuade those who voted for him to turn their backs on politics as usual and the DNC. Obama does not know it--but it is his style of reaching voters and of not going along with the game plan that worries the DNS more than his race. Dems like the old game plan--esp. when they are in power and no one outside of Obama and his supporters want the game derailed. So Kennedy is there in the sidelines, to act as mentor and confidante to Obama, to whisper in his ear about duty to party and healing and to get the man to convince his followers to follow his lead. see next post

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by gmgl-2009 February 8, 2008 5:44 AM EST
I''M TIRED OF PROPAGANDA FOR OBAMA THAT NETWORKS TRY TO PASS OFF AS NEWS!!!! I''ve voted democrat all my life but I''m tired of having Obama shoved down my throat now by such obvious bias against women and against the Clintons in general who brought us a good economy and a competenly run and quickly ended war in Bosnia. The more I see Obama and especially his tactless chearleading media supporters, the less I like him. I''m seriously considering not voting democratic if he is the presidential nominee.
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