Comments on: Iraq Progress Could Be Major '08 Factor

Politico: The Candidates Are Even More Polarized After Petraeus' Testimony

[actornaught]

Colin Powell: What is the greatest threat facing us now? People will say it%u2019s terrorism. But are there any terrorists in the world who can change the American way of life or our political system? No. Can they knock down a building? Yes. Can they kill somebody? Yes. But can they change us? No. Only we can change ourselves. So what is the great threat we are facing?
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It should be about how do we create institutions that keep the world moving down a path of wealth creation, of increasing respect for human rights, creating democratic institutions, and increasing the efficiency and power of market economies? This is perhaps the most effective way to go after terrorists.

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_5900

[lars008-2009]

CHINESE OWN DEMONIC-RATS AND BUY THEM THE ELECTIONS!!!

The tale of shady Chinese Clinton donors avoiding U.S. justice is a familiar one that dates back to the 1996 Clinton-Gore fundraising scandal known as Chinagate. The Clintons took millions in laundered foreign campaign donations from Chinese Communists in exchange for liberalizing trade policy with China, dropping pending indictments against influential Chinese figures, spots on a U.S. trade mission and overnight stays at the White House.
Many of the Chinagate donors were successfully prosecuted even though Clinton Attorney General Janet Reno blocked investigators%u2019 efforts at the Justice Department. More than 100 people connected to the fundraising scandal fled the country, however. Norman Hsu seems to be following their lead.
http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/09/hillary_donor_flees_like_china.html

[pepperp1]

Iraq should be a major issue but it is a representation of the broader failure of the Republican reign as an exercise in incompetent bravado, run away spending, massive debt and reckless national security policy. A massive failure of ethical moral Leadership and Governance that at its core has disrespected this countrys People and placed our prosperity in jeopardy.




CHOOSE LIFE FOR OUR TROOPS call your Senator and tell him 5 years later, 4,000 dead, 34,000 wounded, tens of thousands of Iraqi dead, and 2 Trillion is too much CHANGE THE MISSION.


%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026modify the American mission to emphasize the training and advising of Iraqi security forces so that Iraqis would be pushed into the lead and a vast majority of American combat troops could be quickly withdrawn.





[phone] for the Senate, and [phone] for the House


Do not be distracted the facts are simple the math just as simple, the guilty sacrificing our soldiers and their lives unnecessary are the Republicans in the Senate Bush and Petraeus can not keep our troops in Iraq if 17 Republican Senators switch their vote for America and our Troops so they may come home and live long lives with their families.



28 Soldiers dead in 6 days since Bush declared we are kicking arse in IRAQ. Ask Romney if he to would also want to live vicariously through our soldiers since he too did not serve in the last war.

[toldyouso21]

Asking Patreaus if the surge is working, is like asking a compulsive gambler/or gambling addict if he thinks his "big win" can happen with his next bet! LMAO

[actornaught]

Hey, w found found a shill to say what he wants to hear. Well good for him... and al qaeda!

Bad for us, our military, the Iraqi''s, our taxes, our global reputation, etc etc......

[toldyouso21]

It''s like we have to choose between the fox who ravages all of the chickens (republicans) and the dog with mange who can''t get beyond the wormy butt scoot and chewing on his own itchy azz (the Democrats)

I don''t want leaders who are weak enough to take no stand or who always try to go which way the wind blows the hardest --for THAT day) and I don''t want any leaders too lazy and stupid to read the fine print of the legislation that they sign--so that stuff they agree to is horrible and a shock even to them, and I don''t want leaders whose excuse for not standing firm, is that they are outnumbered or cannot take a stand (like standing firm on the funding bill and not blinking in the face of Bush''s veto) and I don''t want a group whose only virtue is that they are not the other guys.


On the other hand, we are all tired of the Nazi wannabeeism of the Republican Party, the blind loyalty bordering on fanatacism and the lust for blood and treasure from the rest of America--the rabid fox or the mangy dog--some choice, huh America?

[clestes-2009]

mike71067

you are as dense as MudNut. You either never read anything beyond Weekly Standard or listen to anyone beyond Rush.

Open you eyes and ears to the TRUTH. I know it is hard, because the truth is going to HURT, but jut try it for a while.

People who are against the continuing surge/war are motivated by facts like

Death of civilians is at an all-time high, because a new civil war has emerged between Shiite sects.

Anbar short term success can be duplicated because no other province is solely Sunni.

Baghdad is silent only because all Sunnis have been purged from it. The rest of the population live under martial law.

AND dispite all other claims, THERE IS STILL NO POLITICAL PROGRESS.

Wrap your midget mind around these few facts and then claim Moveon is behind them.

What an idiot.

[toldyouso21]

"his political stunt called the SURGE as a campaign ploy of providing cover to the Republicans in the Senate and Congress to stay the course. And that they believe by so doing he has out foxed the Dems and delayed troop removal until the next President takes office"

I''m sorry, I despise the neo cons tremendously BUT...the very fact that the Dems were outfoxed and easily lied to to go to war. to go along with the torture bill, to push through the patriot act,to ignore the breaching of FISA, to not see the ploys of the DOJ, to be outfoxed in Bush''s appt to the UN and several ambassadorships, to being outfoxed on funding the war, to not being able to pursue impeachment, to being outfoxed in positions they took on immigration, impeachment or war funding and now being outfoxed on the war reports.

The fact is, they seem to get outfoxed alot. Granted we don''t want fascists or evil people in charge of America--but can you honestly say the Democrats have shown they are fit to lead? They take no stand on any issue--(Just what the people want) and cave in at any opportunity if they think the politics are against their stand. Like I said, I loathe the Republicans--but the Dems get very little respect either. Neither group is fit. One is possibly evil, the other is too weak and easily outfoxed.

[imarltool]

Hey Mike71067, be sure you and your friends of the Nationalist Extreme Right Republican Party wipe off your Swastikas after all that uber drool.

[toldyouso21]

What happens when people believe in the integrity and promise of any institution, and the banker/CEO, broker or other they put at the helm to guide them is honest and sincere but has a secret flaw?

Maybe they are a bit of a gambler and believe the rainbow is just over the bend...so they gamble all of your and every other investor''s money? What happens? You get Enrons, and Silverado and junk bond scandals---billions lost and millions of people destroyed...Not because the brokers were simply dishonest or evil--but because their flaw means they have blinders on--they BELIEVE in and head toward that rainbow--and do it all the more quickly--because it is someone else paying the price. They may even believe in it soooo much that they put themselves and their money on the line...but belief does not negate reality--it either confirms it or refutes it--and one has very bad consequences.

Fast forward to Iraq. So what happens when a nation gambles its treasure and soliders on a ''true believer with blinders?" one who is sure "the success rainbow" is just around the corner. No the next corner...no the next one...okay, then...the next one for sure...well---then the nextest, next, next one.....

What are the results? Where are we going with this? And what kind of person is at the helm? Who are his generals? And what kind of blinders do they wear? What is the reality? How many "next times" do we get--before we ''get it''?

[imarltool]

Q: General, how many American troops have been killed and wounded in the 6 months prior to the surge?
A: Thousands.
Q: And in the 6 months of the surge?
A: Thousands.
Q: Did 9 more Americans die yesterday?
A:Yes.
Q: That averages 270 dead per month, not counting the wounded?
A:Yes,not counting the wounded.
Q: But we count the wounded, and their spouses, and children, and parents and families, because their lives are forever changed too?
A: Yes.
Q: So the surge is still working?
A: But W told me to say it is working.
Q: Did W go AWOL during his time in the service?
A: Yes.
Q: Anything else?
A: I guess not.

[tejasdemo]

Put down the crack pipe.
Posted by mike71067 at 12:55 PM : Sep 11, 2007

You first.

[tejasdemo]

General Betray Us is lying. The right wingers buy this load because they have no vested interest. It''s not their kids dying in Iraq. It''s(primarily) the poorest among us who fight. Everyone knows poor people dont vote Republican.

Republicans know it but dont have the guts to admit it. In fact, they dont have the guts to admit anything they have been solely wrong on.

It''s really pathetic.

[pepperp1]

So while most of the Republicans are claiming victory for the George Bush Surge, his political stunt called the SURGE as a campaign ploy of providing cover to the Republicans in the Senate and Congress to stay the course. And that they believe by so doing he has out foxed the Dems and delayed troop removal until the next President takes office. And they believing themselves safe are dancing in the streets patting themselves on the back. ONE Statesman speaks out and says not so fast%u2026..


A prominent Republican on Tuesday said he remains deeply skeptical of the U.S. war strategy in Iraq, comparing the long and bloody military campaign to a farmer risking his savings to plant on a flood plain.


%u2026%u2026..we should acknowledge that we are facing extraordinarily narrow margins for achieving our goals.









CHOOSE LIFE FOR OUR TROOPS call your Senator and tell him 5 years later, 4,000 dead, 34,000 wounded, tens of thousands of Iraqi dead, and 2 Trillion is too much and our troops need to come home.


[phone] for the Senate, and [phone] for the House


Do not be distracted the facts are simple the math just as simple, the guilty sacrificing our soldiers and their lives unnecessary are the Republicans in the Senate Bush and Petraeus can not keep our troops in Iraq if 17 Republican Senators switch their vote for America and our Troops so they may come home and live long lives with their families.

[lars008-2009]

"The fact that 80% of Iraqis would prefer Sadaam back instead of an Illegal U.S. Occupation says it all."
-Posted by veteran71 at 12:23 PM : Sep 11, 2007

hahahahaha

and what do you think a poll of germany, japan and italy would have said after ww2 haji???

and it is not illegal haji... demonic-rat al bore says so...

[toldyouso21]

Patreaus is NOT dishonest--he just has a one tracked mind. Patraeus is a flawed general.For him, Success in war is the ONLY option. Either git ''er done or die trying...and that goes for all who are under him. He could answer no differently at the hearings and he has the conviction of his beliefs. He also has blinders on and staying the course is his ONLY option--because if he leaves, he failed and that is NOT an option.

No one should be surprised that Patreaus wants to stay the course and is touting success as around the corner. He was saying the same thing in 2004. He''''s consistent, even if he''''s wrong. He will continue to say the same thing if he is at the helm in 2012 or 2016. It is the way he is made. It does not make him right or the sacrifices right--it is just the way he is.
Bush finally struck the war mongeror''s jackpot with this guy.

[mike71067]

"The fact that 80% of Iraqis would prefer Sadaam back instead of an Illegal U.S. Occupation says it all."
-Posted by veteran71 at 12:23 PM : Sep 11, 2007

What it says is that the Iraqi''s are far more stupid than we ever gave them credit for. Perhaps they deserve 30 years of fear and threat of execution by their former dictator. What a bunch of retarded idiots. If there were ever an argument for pulling our troops out of Iraq, it would be that those muslim morons are not worth defending.

Also, the Bush administration did not commit any impeachable offenses, nor did they commit any "war crimes". Otherwise, leftist clowns like Pelosi and company would have prosecuted them by now. They know they can''t, which is more then I can say about you.

Put down the crack pipe.

[toldyouso21]

No one should be surprised that Patreaus wants to stay the course and is touting success as around the corner. He was saying the same thing in 2004. He''s consistent, even if he''s wrong.

[mike71067]

The Democrat party is being controlled by the nuts at MoveOn.org. They do not have Americans'' best interest in mind - they are afraid of their puppetmasters at MoveOn.org, and will do all they can to appease them.

Sad, but true. Remember the moderate left? It no longer exists, and has been replaced by the lunatic left-wing fringe.

[tbweb]

The hallmarks of Democracy are power to the people, freedom of expression, majority rule via the Vote and the peaceful transfer of power through elections! In addition, winners and losers unite and join forces and go in the direction of and support the agenda of the winners. This is the way America always did it and its always served us well. Democrats and Independents still play by those rules, Republicans now don''t! When Republicans lose now or are in the minority these days the fight continues with fierce opposition. Republicans divide the nation, practice divisive politics and run dirty swift-boat type campaigns(Kerry,Ford,Clinton) to name a few! Republicans are sore losers and rip America apart with divisive agendas and politics. This new dynamic now added to American politics by Republicans will destroy America! Finally anyone who does not follow their lead are unpatriotic, attacked and demonized.