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by billpl-2009 October 12, 2007 8:23 PM EDT
I assume they include a course on how to pleasure your husband
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by hwy71so October 12, 2007 2:30 AM EDT
"The difficulty with handling this subject in a secular article, is that there would never be enough room to fully address the theological principles behind the concept. I will however attempt to give an overview: First, the concept of Christian submission is not an issue of value, but of role. It is based on the fact that though Christ is one with God (Thereby equal) The son of God willingly chose to submit to the will of the Father. No One would ever accuse Christians of devaluing Jesus, just like biblical Christianity does not devalue Women, but actually exalts a Godly wife. Second, perspective is only brought when looking at the entire context of Ephesians 5 where this is taken. One would find instruction that we all submit to one another. (Christian submission is willingly looking to the other persons interest rather than your own) Also, there are five times more intructions to husbands about how to treat their wives, including- love her like Christ loved the church. I remind you that Christ loved the church so much, he gave his life for her. This is a self sacrificial, serving love, that communicates to one''''s wife- "I would give my life for you"

Posted by swbts0402408 at 12:12 PM : Oct 11, 2007"

Wow, VERY well said. You don''t see many these days properly orate the message written in the Bible, especially the epistles. The most abused is the book of Revelations.
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by jankebenz October 12, 2007 12:57 AM EDT
What horrid and detestable forms of primitive life would attempt to draw women back to the dark ages by teaching them home making. They better put a stop to this nonsense or before you know it the U.S. economy will nosedive. The fastfood industry would collapse first as meals are made at home, then childcare facilities will suffer immensely when these mislead women decide to raise their own kids. The lucrative law institutions would hard hit with the resulting decrease in crime and divorce rates as dads and juveniles are more apt to stay home now that a mom and wife are to be found. Oh please lets not go back to those dark days of families and noisy, children infested neighborhoods that reek of fried foods and baked pies
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by jankebenz October 12, 2007 12:54 AM EDT
What horrid and detestable forms of primitive life would attempt to draw women back to the dark ages by teaching them home making. They better put a stop to this nonsense or before you know it the U.S. economy will nosedive. The fastfood industry would collapse first as meals are made at home, then childcare facilities will suffer immensely when these mislead women decide to raise their own kids. The lucrative law institutions would hard hit with the resulting decrease in crime and divorce rates as dads and juveniles are more apt to stay home now that a mom and wife are to be found. Oh please lets not go back to those dark days of families and noisy, children infested neighborhoods that reek of fried foods and baked pies
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by Krazcarl October 11, 2007 9:38 PM EDT
Where can I buy one?????
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by misands October 11, 2007 9:26 PM EDT
I also have to add that I would much rather have a woman who will speak her mind instead of mindlessly submitting to my will. It''s *** and makes the relationship more passionate.
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by misands October 11, 2007 9:21 PM EDT
I think nothing is sexier than a smart professional woman who is strong and self-assured. Most women I''ve known who stay at home seem to just get fat and lazy over time.
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by revlb-2009 October 11, 2007 7:29 PM EDT
It is truly amazing to me how eductated people can be so ignorant on the subject of the Bible. The quote is incorrect to begin with. I can see that the writer did not research the verse of Scripture used. The actual Scripture quoted correctly is, "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord", not "to the Lord but "as to the Lord". That makes a huge difference in meaning wouldn''t you say? That Scripture is immediately preceded by Ephesians 5:21 which says, "Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ."
I have the utmost respect for any man or woman who wants to discover what God created them for and is willing to fit into that role and find their niche. Isn''t it a shame that so many women have lost the skills of being a home maker and managing a home simply by not using the skills because they can''t or think they can''t? My wife worked most of her career longing to be at home with our four children. She finally made it and couldn''t be happier. If that''s what she wants I''m all for her. I''ve been all for her since the day I met her. The reason is that I submit to the God who requires us to submit to each other because we deeply revere His design for us and His presence in our lives.
God knows what He''s doing. Trying to make it sound like some kind of slavery isn''t working with most of us out here. The writer should do a little more research before writing.
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by missingamerica October 11, 2007 6:07 PM EDT
Hmmm...this is probably going to come out wrong no matter how hard I try, but what the heck.

I personally greatly value women who can make a house into a home. I don''t begrudge any woman their desire to do whatever they wish to do, but in terms of value to myself personally and to the world at large, the often-derided "homemaker/caregiver/mother" figure ranks as high as, if not higher than, any other "occupation" for a woman.

To me.

Women long were the true core of our civilizations; through them came the morality, compassion, and mercy children learned when they were most teachable.

I know that we men are supposed to be picking up the burden of bringing children up through the stages from unthinking, egocentrical consumers into mature and rational adults, but I suspect many men lack certain necessary skills in that area - high among them being empathy.

After all it is we men who, for all of recorded history, are the ones who start the wars.

What can be more the opposite of the caring, nurturing figure that a child-rearer must be than one who would use his powers of pursuasion and even outright subterfuge to convince others to maim, kill and destroy either with him or for him?

So if you run into a woman who wishes to take courses such as those this article mentions, hold back your criticism.

You may be doing the world a favor; that woman may raise the boy or girl who finally reins in the warlike tendencies of man.
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by yoopermom October 11, 2007 6:06 PM EDT
Lydiasings;
I am so happy that this works for you. Unfortunatly with one son in collage and two more right behind him, I do not have the option of staying home.
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