Comments on: Religious Books Removed From U.S. Prisons

The Skinny: Bid To Prevent Prisons From Becoming Breeding Ground For Radical Religious Beliefs

[sy2502]

Bring back forced labor for prison inmates, so they have no time or energy to do drugs, stab each other and become religious fanatics. And they will be paying for their room and board.

[iceman_1960]

"But for lower level prisons with a lot of first time and nonviolent offenders, rehab does work quite often."

lars008, for example.

He was released from prison after serving time for lewd behavior and public nudity, after he promised to spend his days copy/pasting and distributing a whole lot of foolish neocon propaganda on the Internet.

So rehab does work sometimes.

[mitywhity]

Ironically, America''''s first prisons were run by the Quakers, and consisted of putting the convict in solitary confinement with nothing but a Bible to read.

Needless to say, the convicts tended to go insane after a while.

A good set of weights and exercise apparatus is the best thing for them.

Posted by Iceman_1960.......................So the Bible makes people go insane and you got that documented fact from history. Sure. Another cheap swat at God. God will not be mocked. Chain-gangs are long overdue for certain offenders. At the most they''ll cut a little gas and pick up some trash. Good enough for ''em.

[hwy71so]

That''''s exactly how Europe used America. They sent the religious fanatics to the new world to express their psychosis, which is why we''''re near to imploding now.
Posted by Spectrum108 at 11:23 AM : Sep 10, 2007

That''s funny right there. Shows how much you remember from studying history in school. Most people fled to the "New World" to escape religious persecution. They were tired of being told how they HAD to worship; Church of England, Catholic, Quran, etc... They established here, per the Constitution, that we should be allowed to worship without the government interfering. Incidentally, by the government removing religious documents and disallowing prayer, etc in school, they are interfering; violating the Constitution.

[iceman_1960]

RE: "What ever happened to the concept of rehabilitation?"

It depends on the level of the prison. At the level where the most hardened felons are sent, most of the prison staff take a cynical view of rehabilitation. Said one, "The only rehabilitator is age. When they get too old to run out of the bank, they stop robbing banks."

But for lower level prisons with a lot of first time and nonviolent offenders, rehab does work quite often.

[lars008-2009]

it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid%u2026.

non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside...

I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair''s bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770
Bless the Beasts and Children
Fascist nazi terrorslam kills every man woman and child in the village again%u2026 typical mo for terrorslam%u2026
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan

the truth about fascist nazi terrorislam...
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/

[mitywhity]

The more important headline related to that non-story is that prison officials are attempting to help Christians (primarily the pope) stem the flood of people fleeing from Christinity...Posted by tuckerndfw...True Christians will flee the Pope''s tyrranical control over their lives and minds. They call us born-agains, "mind-controlled idiots" and the like, but do you know who controls the mind of the unbeliever? Yeah, I know...I do, no one controls me, blah, blah, I am my own master, blah, blah. You better wake up.

[iceman_1960]

I read that in some prisons where the so-called "chain gangs" have been brought back, there''s actually a waiting list of convicts wanting to get put on them.

They think of that kind of work as another form of weightlifting.

[zendigity]

What ever happened to the concept of rehabilitation?

Sooner or later someone''''s bound to say it...

Why don''''t we eliminate the prison system and just start gassing the prisoners and burning their corpses in large ovens...

Oh...that seems like something more in line with 2012''''s election campaign...

[mitywhity]

My ancestors came for Germany in the 1750''''s seeking to own land and have a better life. Religion had nothing to do with why they came. This ideal that the US was formed for freedom of religion is a myth....Posted by boldwin223.........Goody for them, Yay! So because they just came for the resources that makes the Puritans, the Reformed Baptists, the Methodists, the Lutherans, The Episopalians, etc. just go away. And I''ll just suppose that they wrote all this down for you that nobody they knew were fleeing persecution from religious thugs in Europe. Scan their letters for us all to read so that your family''s experience can negate mine and anyone else''s.

[iceman_1960]

Ironically, America''s first prisons were run by the Quakers, and consisted of putting the convict in solitary confinement with nothing but a Bible to read.

Needless to say, the convicts tended to go insane after a while.

A good set of weights and exercise apparatus is the best thing for them.

[sharncedar]

Wow, the FBI is pretty much admitting that most people in prsions would get more from Islam than from the state religion (greed a nd money-worship as far as I can tell). Wow, that''s really crazy. They have brutalized and mistreated so many Americans, up to 2 million in prison today, they are actually terrified that those mistreated, brutalized victims of capitalism might somehow get organized, that they might stop fighting each other and find the self-discipline to organize themselves. Though I highly doubt it, the prison system is designed around breaking the moral fiber of a man. In prison, any kind of violence or perversion is encouraged, it is only decency or gentleness or kindness which is punished and ruthlessly weeded out.

Wow, the FBI is pretty much admitting it is on a campaign to terrorize Americans in prison, to weaken them by keeping religion away. It is kind of sick. Just when you thought it couldn''t get any worse, that maybe we are not diving head-first into fascism, the system slaps you awake.

[boldwin223]

My ancestors came for Germany in the 1750''s seeking to own land and have a better life. Religion had nothing to do with why they came. This ideal that the US was formed for freedom of religion is a myth.

[ioweign]

You''''re right. But they have to take it ALL away - so the ACLU can''''t claim d i s c r i m i n a t i o n!!!
Posted by infidel_us at 11:35 AM : Sep 10, 2007

You are right infidel_us, you can not single out one group over another. Alberto is resigning over that very issue with the fired attorneys.

[iceman_1960]

"So,go on blaspheming,and don`t forget the only ''unforgivable sin'',.."
- Posted by neobrian at 11:54 AM : Sep 10, 2007

Don''t even start...

That topic has caused more pain, even provoking suicides in impressionable adolescents, than any other in the history of theology.

Bertrand Russell points out that Jesus Christ could not have been a good or kind-hearted man, to have inflicted such bizarre nonsense of the human race.

I agree. It was a sadistic thing to do.

[mitch0927]

tuckerndfw , comments like yours just proves you are just plain ole stupid.....

[iceman_1960]

In addition to the well known atheist or agnostic scientists, or Einstein, who professed philosophical pantheism, there were some great believing scientists.

James Clerk Maxwell, the Scottish physicist with the best mathematical genius in modern times, was a devout Christian. [Said Einstein, "The work of Maxwell is the most profound and the most fruitful that physics has experienced since the time of Newton."]

"From the start of his childhood, religion touched all aspects of Maxwell''s life. Both his father and mother were devout churchgoers (Presbyterian and Episcopalian) and instilled a strong faith in their son. All information available suggests that neither in his adolescence, nor in his later years, did Maxwell ever reject the fundamental principles of his Christian faith. Ivan Tolstoy, author of one of Maxwell''s biographies, remarked at the frequency with which scientists writing short biographies on Maxwell often omit the subject of his religion."

Source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_clerk_maxwell

[likeitis5050]

That''s fine, so long as ALL religious material is removed and not just selected or targeted doctrines. There are just as many whacked out Christians in prisons as any other doctrine misinterpreted by maniacs. The most benign of doctrines can become a hatchet in the hands of the criminally insane. But I would wager a year''s salary that will NOT be the case in the end. Chaplains can''t resist self-promotion.

[neobrian-2009]

Dim Whitty,I see You can ''cut & paste'',it`s a start,..But,you Are Not a Mind reader,.. What I mean to say IS " I `ll take my chances on my beliefs,..and you take yours,..If I`m right,I`ll be fine,.But,if You are wrong,..You`ll be like the rich man begging for Lazarus for a sip of relief,..So,go on blaspheming,and don`t forget the only '' unforgivable sin'',..

[iceman_1960]

RE: "But Christianity is for stupid people so we should just relegate all Bibles and believers to exile somewhere far away..."

We could find some beautiful island and call it the Garden of Eden.

By the way, I''ve known some pretty smart Christians.