Comments on: Is There A "Plan B" For Iraq?

The Skinny: If Current U.S. Strategy Fails, There Doesn't Seem To Be An Alternative, Says Washington Post

[randalds]

Plan C Leave the mess for someone else to clean up. That represents Georges's whole life.

Posted by WDRussell1 at 01:36 PM : Mar 05, 2007

That's true. All of his life this dumbas*s has screwed up everything he's touched and always needed someone (usually daddy) to come to his rescue or clean up after him. He's never had a single success of his own of any note and never will. The "man" is and always will by an incompetent as*shole.

[bm6005]

Bush is a IQ 91 moron as well as the rest of his admin. They are perfect examples of highly educated IDIOTS!!

[bm6005]

Plan C Leave the mess for someone else to clean up. That represents Georges's whole life.
Posted by WDRussell1

I believe Plan C is the MBA oath is it not?! That'e been my experience with the new gen "bungy" bosses!

[bm6005]

accusations flew,are you that naive?
Posted by notblue

Accusations flew due to the total, criminal incompetence of the politicians in the Pentagon. Not the troops, the Dumsfeld's feith's, wolfowitz's. Let's see now; the war will be over, and we'll be out in 3 mos. It will only cost $55 billion, The Iraqi's will throw flowers at our feet. We know there are WMD's, there will be no civil war, yada, yada, yada, lies, lies, lies!!!!

[clemenhagen1]

Bottom line: Bush dropped the ball on al Qaeda. We had them on the run after sacking the Taliban and surrounding bin Laden in the mountains of Tora Bora. More importantly, we possessed not just a national mandate but international blessing to pursue them. The majority of the Middle East even supported us in our right to pursue justice for the perpetrators of the 9-11 attacks. Then the Project for a New American Century wack-jobs intervened. The right-wing echo chamber beat the propaganda drums of war, Feith and crew carried out Cheney's order to fix the intelligence, and here we sit years later with Iraq in chaos, the Middle East destabilized, and al Qaeda regrouping and recruiting with a vengeance while event the Taliban rehabilitates their image. Well played El Presidente! Sure glad the Missions Accomplished, Freedom's on the March, and the Axis of Evil has been banished. Any new sound bytes out there to explain away this absolute debacle of a foreign policy? At least your corporate cronies got rich, so all was not lost.

[clemenhagen1]

NotBlue: With respect to Vietnam, one needs to look through a longer lens. In 1954 the Vietminh defeated the French and ended, for all intents and purposes, colonial rule. At that point in history the Geneva Accords put into place an electoral process, with an election to be held in 1956, that would have given the Vietnamese a united government. Of course, the United States opposed this election (as we opposed Mohammad Mossadegh, Jacobo Arbenz Guzman, Salvador Allende, and other democratically elected leaders) because we knew Ho Chi Minh. In other words, the United States placed Vietnam on the road to civil war and the eventual deaths of an estimated million Vietnamese because we refused to abide by one of our own principles: self-determination. Spare us the shallow revisionist history unless you really wish to openly and honestly assess the whole of that history. Selective interpretation of history smacks more of propaganda than truthful analysis.

[bluestardad]

QUIT FIGHTING WARS FOR ISRAEL AND SAUDI ARABIA!

Saudi Arabia is supporting the Sunni insurgents and al Qaeda in Iraq while they are slant drilling stealing Iraqi Oil! The Bush administration is funding al Qaeda in Lebanon! Everyone knows that the Saudi Royal Family is a family friend of Bushs and that puts him at odds with American national interest! Israeli Neocons are pushing the Bush administration to attack Iran. Afghanistan is falling apart because this administration has pulled assets from that theater of war. Israeli lobbying groups are selling access to American elected officials as you can see in their lobbying group advertisement below. Israeli Neocons are openly pushing our Elected officials to fight their wars in Proxy!

Follow the money do not take my word for it see how many in Congress are influenced by AIPAC money and how they are voting on Iraq!

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm

Bush Funds Al Qaeda here is the stream read it yourself!

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070305fa_fact_hersh

Just copy up to the Hersh on the news stream this web site is adding a n on the end of the paste!



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[davek455]

when I wonder who are these people who support the Bush administration, I conclude that they are
- fear-based in their thinking and really believe they're going to be attacked (rediculous when you consider these people live in places like Des Moines, IA and Montgomery, AL)
- ignorant of the world in general and religion in particular
- greedy, all they care about is their wallet, buying a second home, stock portfoilio, etc.

[davek455]

oh here we go....lars008 the bonehead has awoken from his/her slumber....I look forward to lots of inciteful remarks

[dallison7]

HOW DID GEORGE W. BUSH HAPPEN?

We are all the result of the effects that people and things had on our formative years. Parents and grandparents are instrumental in the shaping of our personalities:


Bush-Bones Doctrine: "Deny Everything" "There's three things to remember: claim everything, explain nothing, deny everything." - Senator Prescott Bush (Skull & Bones 1917) The Bush family patriarch made the above statement in a 1966 interview."


Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland `` Bunny '' Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush.%u201D

[lars008-2009]

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2007/691/
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2002_winter_spring/terrorism.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+Thomas Jefferson barbary
http://http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q= Thomas Jefferson islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q= Thomas Jefferson muslim

[dallison7]

"Plan B was to make Plan A work."



QUAGMIRE ACCOMPLISHED!!

[wdrussell1]

Plan A Invade, occupy, death, destruction, loot the treasury.
Plan B Blame the dems for not having a plan.
Plan C Leave the mess for someone else to clean up. That represents Georges's whole life.

[macusweil]

"the republicans got America into this war"

--and Why? Because the GOP (Gas, Oil & Petroleum) lobby was acting on solely on behalf of their special interests (mostly their own pocketbooks) and not out of any real concern the American people or their safety.

So please tell me who in their right mind is going to trust the GOP to do anything that does not still server their special interest?

Of course Bush/Cheney & Rummy knew there were no WMDs, why else would they have rolled our troops in there w/o any gas or bio protection. Then again they did send our soldiers under-manned, under trained and w/o proper body & vehicle armor.

[davek455]

notblue - Al Qeada is responsible for their acts of terrorism. But we're responsible for how we reacted. Authorizing the president to use force was NOT agreement that he should actually use that authority. To not authorize the president the use of force would have been met with a huge condemnation from people like yourself who would have said the democrats were siding with Saddam.

[notblue]

clestes, when the U.S. withdrew from Viet Nam communism didn't spread, all that happened was the genocide of between 1 and 2 million innocent civilians, I guess that's ok since you didn't mention those results.

[clestes-2009]

gunnerv1, our withdrawing from Vietnam was suppose to embolden the communist to the point where it spread like cancer. Didn't happen. In fact, it failed spectacularly in Russia.

I don't usually lower myself to calling people names, and didn't call you one. Telling you to *** yourself isn't calling you anything.

You have no idea of whether I am a coward or not and make stupid assumptions because I don't agree with US empire building.

But OK, you are a pretty stupid ***.

[notblue]

davek, do you think the radical Islamists share any blame for this mess?

[clestes-2009]

gunnerv1 *** you.

I am sick of being called unpatriotic or a coward because I don't support US empire building. We should NEVER have been in the business of trying to create another country in our image, by force. Pretty stupid idea.

Now, because that idea has fallen to ***, and I want the troops home so they don't get killed over this stupid idea, I am unpatriotic.

If you think being patriot is running other countries government, try looking in the dictionary for the correct definition. It means doing the best for your country. Staying in Iraq is not in our best interest.

Then I hear the "oh, but they will overrun Israel and spread their idea of Islam fundamentalism" so we HAVE to be there.

WRONG AGAIN. I heard that same *** about communism spreading if we left Vietnam. Didn't happen then, won't happen now.

[notblue]

davek455, the MAJORITY of DEms not only worked with the Republicans to begin with but voted the same until things started going south, that's when the excuses and accusations flew,are you that naive?