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[samthetvcat]

PPS By the way, have you been to prison? Just a hunch. Or was it my stance on gang-bangers that struck the nerve?

Either way, I get the sense you''re familiar with sentencing guidelines - generally the rape of a child can get anywhere from like 10 to 25 years with credit for good behavior. Barack''s now saying these people should die. Maybe in your mind being in prison is the same as death (?)

[broadwayphi]

SamTheTVCat:

Your posts prove the point that Obama is not adamantly oppose to the death penalty. That''s the point -- the only point -- I was making. If you have been trying to make another, you aren''t doing a very good job.

But you''re doing such a good job of proving mine, I will not discourage you from going on.

First, however, I recommend you go to factcheck.org.

Something for everyone.

See you at the polls.

My friend.

[broadwayphi]

Posted by SamThe(FOX)TVCat at 12:48 AM : Aug 19, 2008


"I didn''''t bring up the late-term abortion issue..."

Yeah. you did. I answered your assertions. But believe as you will (or are told to.)

My friend.

[samthetvcat]

Seriously, do you get that distinction or is there a bit of a comprehension problem there? What''s going on? :o

[samthetvcat]

Posted by broadwayphi

You do realize the point I was making was that Barack now supports the death penalty for child rapists who DON''T murder - that means they do not murder. They haven''t killed anybody. Their crime is rape - no murder.

That quote above states that Barack believes in the death penalty for those who rape children AND murder. That means they have to rape AND murder the child. Not just rape - they also have to murder the child.

Do you see the difference in those two sentences????? :o

[broadwayphi]

Sam The (FOX) TVCat:

Go to www.factcheck.org, a non-partisan web site which also contains material critical of Obama.

That is, if you can swith off the ditto-head radio and the FOX news long enough to get some actual facts.

Have fun. You might find it refreshing.

Go on now, give it a try.

My friend.

[broadwayphi]

Hit a nerve there, SamTheTVCat?

Your quote:
Barack states "I believe there are some crimes--mass murder, the rape and murder of a child--so heinous that the community is justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage by meting out the ultimate punishment"

Any questions, my erudite friend?

Because you seem to be providing all the answers.

[samthetvcat]

---"McCain released three new ads with multiple false and misleading claims about Obama''s tax proposals."---Posted by broadwayphi

Well, you''re one to talk . . . any luck coming up with ACTUAL FACTS to back up YOUR claims?

[broadwayphi]

From www.factcheck.org:

McCain released three new ads with multiple false and misleading claims about Obama''s tax proposals.

A TV spot claims Obama once voted for a tax increase "on people making just $42,000 a year." That''s true for a single taxpayer, who would have seen a tax increase of $15 for the year %u2013 if the measure had been enacted. But the ad shows a woman with two children, and as a single mother, she would not have been affected unless she made more than $62,150. The increase that Obama once supported as part of a Democratic budget bill is not part of his current tax plan anyway.


A Spanish-language radio ad claims the measure Obama supported would have raised taxes on "families" making $42,000, which is simply false.

The TV ad claims in a graphic that Obama would "raise taxes on middle class." In fact, Obama''s plan promises cuts for middle-income taxpayers and would increase rates only for persons with family incomes above $250,000 or with individual incomes above $200,000.


A second radio ad, in English, says, "Obama has a history of raising taxes" on middle-class Americans. But that''s false.

(Factcheck.org is non-partisan, and has articles critical of Obama as well.)

[samthetvcat]

PPS So broadwayphi prove you''re not a total lame-@ss and make the case that Barack has always been in favor of the death penalty for child rapists who don''t murder their victims . . .