Comments on: freeSpeech: Brian Rohrbough

Dad Of A Columbine Victim Asks “Why Did This Happen?”

[sangerin1]

WAIT A MINUTE!!! This isn't one of %u201COUR%u201D schools!!! When is the last time you went to an Amish school? And it wasn't a student doing this! This man went to school in the "good old days" when he wasn't taught these godless teachings. This man went to church. He was taught all those good things that we are supposed to learn. So what the heck does ANY of what this man said have to do with the issue???
This guy simply exploited his tragic loss of his son and his chance to sympathize with those who are also suffering to promote his own private radical agenda to the public, none of which had ANYTHING to do with what happened to those poor children. So, if my son dies, do I get to go on TV and talk about anything I want? To force a religion on those around me? That's just sick. I am disgusted and appalled that CBS confuses free speech and abuse of opportunity.

[armbar77]

Jesus either is who he says he is or he is the biggest fraud who ever walked this earth.

Now for all you people who don't believe in Jesus, before you decide that Christianity is bad. DO THIS.

1. Don't judge Christianity or Jesus based on other people's ideas of it or him.

2. Get a bible and read the first 4 books of the New Testament. See how Jesus dealt with people and situations. You will see that he is not a fraud and if you just ask him into your heart and believe him you will have ever lasting life

[armbar77]

This country was founded on Godly principles. Even if some of the founding fathers were not Christian they lived in a society that was based on Christian principles.

The more we push God out of our lives the further we get away from his influence the more of these atrocities we are going to witness.

It isn't God doing these things, its the nature of Man without the influence of God in his life that causes these things.

By the way just because a person says he is a Christian, or was raised Christian doesn't mean he is a Christian.

You can tell a tree by it's fruits

[godrules2]

katie couric? Whose she? She AIN"T No (yea! I used a double negative!) Barbara Walters. Let's see you in a debate with Don Wildman or James Dobson, Katie. I really don't care who or what you believe in Ms. Couric. That moment of airtime was given to Mr. Rohrbough to voice his "free-speech". The rest of the news time is allowed to you. You could have kept your negative comment to yourself.

[bigbill20001]

I feel very sorry for Brian Rohrbough's tragic loss of his son. He is searching for a reason for actions that defy understanding. He states that the removal of prayer, the teaching of evolution in public schools and abortion are the cause of these shootings of school children by deranged individuals.

He is looking for an answer to he "why" in the wrong place. Europe, which is populated by "heathen Godless liberals", with legal abortion does not have similar types of random killings by strangers. They do have politically motivated terrorist attacks but not the murder of school children. In fact, murder rates are a fraction of the U.S. rate.

What is the major difference between our societies that leads to such a huge difference in the murder rates? The difference is the unrestricted access to guns in the U.S. The "heathen Godless liberal" Europeans" do not murder each other as much as us God fearing gun toting Americans. Go figure!

I do not understand why anyone would attack innocent school children, but the easy access to guns makes it easy for deranged individuals to act out their nightmares. Human beings have always suffered from mental illnesses and moral problems and always will. The the imposition of a Christian theocracy in the U.S. will not have an affect on individuals with these problems.
I also know that the sale of guns in the U.S. will most likely never be restricted in the near future, so very sadly we can expect more of these tragadies.

[jerry753-2009]

Sorry Jeff, but Pascal's Wager has been refuted about a million times. It's one of the worst arguments for belief ever devised.

[cicero881]

"With savages, the weak in body and mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed and the sick; we institute poor laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of everyone to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands who, from a weak constitution, would formerly have succumbed to smallpox. Thus the weak members of civilised society propagate their kind.

No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but, excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed."
-Charles Darwin

"animals"

That's all we are according to evolution.
But in Christianity, we're worth the value of God's own Son. So which places a higher value on human life? Hint: not the one being taught in our schools.

[jeffinwi1]

I agree, the rights denied to women and blacks back then were wrong. But for every morally wrong deed back then,there are countless today.
The morals of today are very lacking ,to say the least. Once upon a time, the pictures in National Geographic were considered borderline pornographic. Now look at the filth portrayed these days. It's everywhere, television, movies , magazines and the internet. Anything goes these days and God's patience will not last forever.
Back then, how often did you hear about school massacres? You didn't. It was a simpler and safer time. You could leave your doors unlocked and not worry about some crackhead breaking in.
Our Lord is a very patient and loving God but even His patience has its limits. Be prepared.

[wxman2004]

Let's take a look down memory lane a see how morally great this country was when prayer was allowed in school. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many states, were forced to ride in the back of the bus and were required to give their seat up to a white person. Blacks were not allowed to attend most universities, were forced to use seperate bathrooms, seperate schools and were often lynched or imprisoned with no reason.

Our government and law enforcement were controlled and owned by organized crime and big business on a far greater scale than today. If you openly spoke out against the government, you were labelled a communist and your career was destroyed.

Women were not allowed to hold professional positions that men held and were not allowed to vote until the 20th century.

The poor and uneducated did the fighting and dying for this country.

If you tried to have a peaceful protest, you were often arrested and beaten.

If you tried to complain about working conditions, you were fired, and sometimes beaten and killed.

So all of you who say we use to live in a more moral society are completely and utterly ignorant. Our so called moral society of the past held a bible in one hand, but the other hand held the hand of the devil, and their hearts were filled with bigoty and hatred.

Our country did not prosper and grow because of these so called great and moral leaders of the past, it did it in spite of them.

[wxman2004]

Let's take a look down memory lane a see how morally great this country was when prayer was allowed in school.Blacks were not allowed to vote in many states, nor were forced to ride in the back of the bust and were required to give their seat up to a white person. Blacks were not allowed to attend most universities, were forced to use seperate bathrooms, seperate schools and were often lynched or imprisoned with no reason.

Our government and law enforcement were controlled and owned by organized crime and big business on a far greater scale than today. If you openly spoke out against the government, you were labelled a communist and your career was destroyed.

Women were not allowed to hold professional positions that men held and were not allowed to vote until the 20th century.

The poor and uneducated did the fighting and dying for this country.

If you tried to have a peaceful protest, you were often arrested and beaten.

If you tried to complain about working conditions, you were fired, and sometimes beaten and killed.

So all of you who say we use to live in a more moral society are completely and utterly ignorant. Our so called moral society of the past held a bible in one hand, but the other hand held the hand of the devil, and their hearts were filled with bigoty and hatred.

Our country did not prosper and grow because of these so called great and moral leaders of the past, it did it in spite of them.

[jcgssg]

I'm sorry, i got your names mixed up. Blame it on my lack of education.

[jeffinwi1]

What do people have to lose by coming to Christ?
If atheists/evolutionists are right, they AND I have nothing to worry about when we die.BUT, if the Bible IS the Truth, I STILL have nothing to worry about when I die, however , they certainly do.
John 3:3 says it all . Jesus said it.

[jcgssg]

Jerry, I'm sure Jeff has an education. He obviously has researched the issue and believes that evolution is just as you stated, a theory. Until scientist, who are extremely educated can prove this theory, which they still cannot do positively, it will remain a theory. If you chose to place your trust in this theory it is your right to do so. It is also Jeff's right to believe what the bible states about creation. Why must you espouse that people who do not fall in line with your way of thinking are uneducated. Isn't it amazing the Bible has something to say about those who believe they are intellectually superior. Romans 1:22 "Professing themselves wise, they became fools."

[jeffinwi1]

AMEN cicero!

[jeffinwi1]

http://www.contenderministries.org/evolution.php

[jerry753-2009]

You pray to your imaginary god; I'll think. We'll see who comes out on top.

[jeffinwi1]

Jerry,sadly you seem to be counted among the wide path. All we (Christians) can do is pray for you.

[jerry753-2009]

JeffinWi said: "I find it interesting that people who believe in evolution(EVILution) can find it much easier to believe we all evolved from soup/rocks than being created by God. Also, seashells have been found on Mount Everest. Unless they somehow grew wings, the ONLY way they could have gotten there was from a worldwide flood 4000 years ago."

Jeff, your ignorance of science (and reality in general) is appalling and sad. I shudder to think that you and your ilk actually vote. Please get an education.

FredomEarned, my point was that it would be stupid for someone to attack the theory of gravity just because the towers fell. This is essentially what the creationists do when they blame evolution -- a widely accepted theory supported by literally mountains of evidence -- for tragedies like Columbine.

[teddycraig]

The truth is often repugnant...

The word repugnant is defined in one place as "distasteful, objectionable, or offensive", and, that is true. The truth, to those who are opposed to it, is often repugnant. To the fool, who says in his heart that there is no God, the truth that the universe could not have come into existence without a creator is very repugnant. So, when Katie Couric said many would find the things spoken by Brian Rohrbough to be repugnant, she was correct. I am not among that number, thankfully, I must say.

I cringe for my country, when I remember that God is just and fair, and that His judgment will not be withholden forever from any ungodly nation the likes of which as this one has become. It makes me sad, no happy in the least, to know that her judgment is near, and that I can do nothing to help her to escape it; for, she will not repent. I believe that the prophet Jeremiah felt this same way for Israel before her fall; for, the book of Lamentations says so if you can read between the lines.

"Righteousness is exalting a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people." - Proverbs 14:34

"Pride is going before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." - Proverbs 16:18

Her sin is her reproach, and, her pride is her greatest sin.

Theodore Craig,
Lakewood, WA, USA

[caspillane]

I consider myself an evangelical christian yet to my father i'm a liberal. I don't know who is right. Probably a bit of both.

In the blogsphere we are offered an opportunity to express our opinion about various topics. And express we do..with a vengence. I'm not sure what I think of that, but blogs are fairly new and can grow in any direction. But I don't think I like what I see as yet.

I didn't have the opportunity to see Mr. Rohrbaugh but I read it. Everyone should read it again and ask what really was said that was objectionable?

That he's saddened and shaken by what is happening in our schools? That he questions why his son died in so useless a manner? That the country is in a moral free fall? That the strong kill the weak, without moral consequences and life has no inherent value. That the murder of innocent children is always wrong? That suicide has become an acceptable action and has further emboldened these criminals. That we are seeing an epidemic increase in murder-suicide attacks on our children. That sadly, our schools are not safe? Have you Listened to the news lately?

I think these things are true. Mr. Rohrbaugh and I don't agree on the hot topics of abortion and religion in the classroom...but that was the least of what he said. Yet most of the responses responded to these hot buttons.

If we can stop waving our own flag and see what we have in common maybe we can work together to make a difference!