Comments on: Inside The Afghan Poppy Wars

Is The U.S.-Led War On Drugs In Afghanistan Undermining The War On Terror?

[zykracosmos]

Another problem... Karzai is only president of the capital city. Outside of Kabul, he has no authority. He''s basically a mayor. The Taliban effectively run the rest of the country from the shadows, illustrated by their ability to not only control poppy production, but also to have it manufactured into heroin, market it for cash, and obtain weapons to be used against us. That is awfully organized for a group that is supposed to be "on the run." The truth is that we never fully committed to this war. All our troops are in Iraq helping Halliburton and Exxon get back into the oil business there. The bad guys are winning in Afghanistan because we have no troops to send there, and so the taxpayer is paying Halliburton subsidiaries more billions to carry out an ineffective crop destruction campaign. The Bush administration never focused on winning the war in Afghanistan from the beginning, using only air power to support a tribal revolt. That''s why we couldn''t kill Bin Laden when we had him cornered in Tora Bora. None of our guys were on the ground.

[sarcelle]

LIES, LIES, LIES.

If all the Coalition soldiers were being employed at controlling drugs entering their countries, there would be no need to keep armies in Afghanistan and Irak. It is evident these wars are done for an other purpose...OIL

[sarcelle]

LIES, LIES, LIES.

If all the Coalition soldiers were being employed at controlling drugs entering their countries, there would be no need to keep armies in Afghanistan and Irak. It is evident these wars are done for an other purpose...OIL

[zykracosmos]

Ironically, when the Taliban was running the country, they were eradicating the poppy crops themselves as being immoral. Now they have expanded growing the crops to raise money for their war to get back in power. I guess their moral beliefs only go so far. Since we pushed them out of power, the country''s economy has now become totally dependent on a crop with no food value, but is used only to create the most addictive drug in the world. It was a push to eradicate this crop, by the way, that was one of the biggest reasons why the Soviet Union sent troops into Afghanistan in the first place and tried to set up a government that was cooperative with them in ending the drug trade, responsible for countless deaths and misery in Russian cities, and radical Islamists, who constantly stirred up trouble among the old Soviet Union''s 26 million Moslems. We sure showed them a thing or two, didn''t we. Another few billion dollars, and we''ll have every inch of Afghanistan covered in poppy plants. Maybe some of that heroin will find its way to our cities as repayment.

[tootall10142]

wipe out all the poppy start over under controlled state .if you break the law : life at hard labor.sound tough? well we need to become tougher,assasinate heroin users or bend over, i dont see any gray area here,unless i need a shot of illegal dope.we have become chicken sheet in our politics and sisises in battle.

[terrorislami]

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we in the United States get from day to day under rather wonderful and privileged circumstances%u2014that we are not and never have been the villains that some of the world and some of our citizens make us out to be, but that we are a confection of normal individuals living under a spectacularly effective compact called the Constitution, and lucky to get it.

And I began to question my distrust of the "Bad, Bad Military" of my youth, which, I saw, was then and is now made up of those men and women who actually risk their lives to protect the rest of us from a very hostile world. Is the military always right? No. Neither is government, nor are the corporations%u2014they are just different signposts for the particular amalgamation of our country into separate working groups, if you will. Are these groups infallible, free from the possibility of mismanagement, corruption, or crime? No, and neither are you or I. So, taking the tragic view, the question was not "Is everything perfect?" but "How could it be better, at what cost, and according to whose definition?" Put into which form, things appeared to me to be unfolding pretty well.

a free-market understanding of the world meshes more perfectly with my experience than that idealistic vision I called liberalism.

David Mamet: Why I Am No Longer a ''Brain-Dead Liberal''

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0811,374064,374064,1.html

[terrorislami]

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[terrorislami]

Posted by frootloop47 at 07:49 AM : Jun 26, 2008

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[frootloop47]

Inside The Afghan Poppy Wars....
interesting article.

I always thought it WAS the Taliban growing these crops to make money for their terror cause.

I agree with Demongirl. Why can''t the farmers grow other crops. Of course, they probably make tons more money for a bushel of poppies versus a bushel of wheat.

[frootloop47]

Ref: previous posts
terrorislami you are an idiot...and probably a Republican.

[hunterdon6]

The farmers over there have to make a living. Make morphine out of the poppies and then it would be a good crop.

[n8yvn29]

The Bush Crime Family and their ilk has never seen the poppy cultivation as anything more that an excuse to pay their associates to eradicate it. As long as it doesn''t get eradicated, they can continue to pay our tax dollars to their cronies to eradicate it. Win-Win situation for them.

[jamjholmes]

The war on drugs and terror are total rackets and are neverending.

[terrorislami]

Posted by copyat5 at 11:47 PM : Jun 25, 2008

hahaha CHANGE,,, hahaha

rightttttt,,, do you think you will like his staff of the NEW BLACK ANTHER PARTY and the NATION OF TERRORISLAM in his cabinet,,, like he has them in his campaign staff NOW,,,

poor america,,, if hussein becomes president,,,

even europe is concerned about a hussein presidency,,,

if europe is concerned,,, it must be bad,,,

[terrorislami]

Posted by OneWorldUSA at 03:04 AM : Jun 26, 2008

or eliminate bagels,,,

[oneworldusa]

Just spray all the poppy fields with that No-Grow stuff that inhibits all growth for a year. Then do it annually.

Is this where poppy seeds for our bagels come from? If so, we need to ban poppy seeds, in fact, perhaps we should ban them altogether anyway no matter where they come from.

[jobonatcam]

why doesn''t the army or marines pay the farmers directly to destroy the poppy crops and cut out dyncorp completely saving the taxpayers a bundle.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Early in the era of the Taliban, the radical Islamic regime that allowed the al-Qaida terror network to flourish in Afghanistan, opium cultivation was permitted. But in July 2000, more than a year before the United States knocked it out of power, the Taliban banned the crop and introduced the death penalty for opium crimes, leading to a sharp decline in production.

Now, the regions outside Kabul are under the control of warlords, many of whom benefit from the trade. Last year''s production was nine times higher than during the final year of Taliban rule.

Without a national police force or army, President Hamid Karzai''s interim government cannot enforce its poppy ban, leaving drug-eradication workers exposed to retaliation. In June, seven of them were mobbed and killed by enraged poppy farmers in Oruzgan province, 250 miles southwest of Kabul, where authorities were making a major effort to reduce the poppy crops."

Ironic that the Taliban could do it, but Karzai cannot.

[ubrew12]

copyat5 said: "If Obama wins (and he is our only hope) he will have his job cut out for him, and that''s no lie."

There''s no way the next president can ''win'' the task set before him by the republicans. The best he can hope to do is ''carry water'' to soften the blow they''ve beset upon an entire generation of Americans.

McCain wants to make the Bush tax cuts permanent and make the Iraq war permanent. That says he wants to put the final screws into the coffin of the next generation of Americans.

But, they are ALREADY IN the coffin. Make no mistake about that. This has been a generational clvsterfvck of decadal proportions.

[terrorislami]

Posted by copyat5 at 11:47 PM : Jun 25, 2008

ummmmmm nancy,,, it is the DEMONIC-RAT DOCTRINE,,,

On February 16, 1943, President Franklin D. Roosevelt said the "the defense of Saudi Arabia is vital to the defense of the United States." On February 14, 1945, while returning from the Yalta Conference, Roosevelt met with King Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia on the Great Bitter Lake in the Suez Canal, the first time a U.S. president had visited the Persian Gulf region.

The Carter Doctrine was a policy proclaimed by President of the United States Jimmy Carter in his State of the Union Address on 23 January 1980, which stated that the United States would use military force if necessary to defend its national interests in the Persian Gulf region. The doctrine was a response to the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union, and was intended to deter the Soviet Union%u2014the Cold War adversary of the United States%u2014from seeking hegemony in the Persian Gulf. After stating that Soviet troops in Afghanistan posed "a grave threat to the free movement of Middle East oil," Carter proclaimed:

Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force. (full speech)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Doctrine