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Federal Lawsuit Against Department Of Veterans Affairs Comes To A Close

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by j-whitman May 2, 2008 6:11 PM EDT
lindaredtail,,,, Sorry pal,, Not enough outrage resulted in Bush''s appointment to a 2nd term & more devistataion to the War on Terror, military & national security.
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by lindaredtail May 2, 2008 6:04 PM EDT
navalretgy Hopefully if we Americans do not diminish our outrage this situation can be remedied. I wish you the best.
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by michael0004 May 2, 2008 6:03 PM EDT
michael0004 I just downloaded it. I hope that I can be of help in some way.


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Posted by lindaredtail at 03:00 PM : May 02, 2008


Thanks. I appreciate your support.
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by lindaredtail May 2, 2008 6:00 PM EDT
michael0004 I just downloaded it. I hope that I can be of help in some way.
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by lindaredtail May 2, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
michael0004 Thank you. I am going to the link to become a commentor if I can. This is another rotten trick of the Bush administration.
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by j-whitman May 2, 2008 5:46 PM EDT
marizara,,,, If the VA is privatized, there will be higher costs --- That''s the result of privatization in every industry as we''ve found out
.. Don''t forget our injured veterans & those with extedend medical problems don''t have the money to pay for privatized care.
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by navalretgy May 2, 2008 5:42 PM EDT
I have been going through many issues with the VA for the past year in the fight for my benefits. I have been rated 10% disabled for my back condition and am now unemployable for this service connected disability. My Neurosergeon has issed a statement that I can no longer able or ever will be able do the job I was trained to do and the VA has not responded to my appeal for an increase. I can see where vets end up dieing before there claims are ever touched by the VA. They responmd to initial claims quickly but appeals end up taking years. They hope you either give up or die. The cover up demonstrates that VA protocol starts at the very top and it is the only way they can maintain their budget or even bonuses.
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by michael0004 May 2, 2008 5:35 PM EDT
lindaredtail - The following is the link to the VA''s proposed rulemaking:

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/pdf/E8-8091.pdf

This proceeding entitled "Definition of Service in the Republic of Vietnam" is open for public comment until June 16, 2008. The veterans who are adversely affected by this proceeding need as many people as possible to file comments with the VA opposing the VA''s proposal which attempts to redefine the definition of "service in Vietnam" to exlude those who served in the waters offshore (no matter how close to shore they were) and who served on ships in the harbors of Vietnam from being considered as having served in Vietnam despite their service recognition by the military services through the Vietnam Service Medal and other medals awarded in support of combat operations in Vietnam AND DESPITE THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS OWN STAFF DECISIONS BETWEEN 1991 AND 2002 awarding these very same combat veterans disabilty for certain diseases associated with the spraying of Agent Orange in Vietnam. The Department of Veterans Affairs wants to interpret the statutory (The Agent Orange Act of 1991) "service in Vietnam" language to mean service in Vietnam for those who physically set foot on land in Vietnam even though neither the statute nor legislative history even so much as hinted at such a limitation or excusion. (This also is the basis for Haas vs Nicholson case currently pending before the US Court of Appeals.)

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by Marie Zarankevich May 2, 2008 5:34 PM EDT
To mcapek: -- I have worked in a VA facility, and the real problem is not funding. -- It is the fact that the entire VA health care system is run as a bureaucratic agency, NOT as a health care system. -- I know, I hated it. -- Every single medical thing took as long as was humanly possible. -- The same as the workings in ANY government agency. -- Private medicine does NOT work that way. -- Private medicine expedites medical procedures, and does not protract them. -- From an experienced medical worker, that IS the problem.
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by lindaredtail May 2, 2008 5:27 PM EDT
adek I too worked with veterans at a detox unit and the same was true. We used to take them anyway and work to find long term programs for them. This problem has been ongoing since the Reagan administration when they cut veteran''s funding. They don''t have a problem though funding war planes ect. Only equipment for our soldiers and services for our veterans. This should tell our veterans and soldiers who it is that supports them. It is not the Republicans. Bush is the first president in decades who commissioned new nuclear weapons. Smaller ones. What might he be thinking using smaller ones for? The Republicans fund wars. The Democrats do better at funding the issues that war creates.
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by Marie Zarankevich May 2, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
These Vets may not GET any help unless some private resources offer to donate treatment blocks for free to local Vets needing treatment they cannot get from the VA. -- The individuals needing treatment really need help, right away, not when we get this all sorted out. -- Like so many other things, I think we are on our own with this one, and may have to provide for our soldiers ourselves! -- Imagine THAT!
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by mcapek May 2, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
It is not the VA health care system that is at fault. It is the politicians starting with President Bush and the politically appointed managers of the Department of Veterans Affairs who have fallen down on the job.
...........WRONG my friend, VA SYSTEM has been ALWAYS screwed up, even in the 70s when I actually rotated through there for a few months. And it has nothing to do with president Bush, it has always been screwed up, because of insufficient funding (and of course, since the VA care is "free", there are "unlimited demands" for healthcare by veterans).
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by adek1 May 2, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
I used to work in a mental health agency in mckeeport PA. They used to tell me to turn away any Vet if they had VA insurance!!! Some of them could not get to the nearest nearby facility which was about 15 miles away!! I accepted them anyway, I thought that policy really stunk!! I didn''t even care if I got fired because these men and women really needed mental health treatment. The policies in this country really are horrible when it comes to our recovering veterans!!! I hope they win win win!!! And the VA and the government PAYS!!!
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by lindaredtail May 2, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
johnpatrick9 I too voted twice against this administration. And in 2006 voted to begin to correct it. I say we because it was my country that sent them to war though personally I did not agree with it. Hopefully we are on a trend now where we can correct some of these things.
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by Marie Zarankevich May 2, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
Looks like Bush and his buddies are planning to clean our clock completely before he is done in office. -- What is hardest to believe is that our Congress is allowing all this to happen, Republican OR Democrat they are supposed to protect us from predators. -- Instead we are being fed to them, in pieces. -- These people are ravishing this country, after which there will be nothing left but empty gum wrappers on the ground. -- They will not stop, and will take all they can get away with, watch!. -- OUR biggest terrorist problem is BUSH.
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by michael0004 May 2, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
Welcome to the new UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE PLAN for America. Get used to the VA fiasco, except thousand times magnified.


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Posted by mcapek at 01:53 PM : May 02, 2008

It is not the VA health care system that is at fault. It is the politicians starting with President Bush and the politically appointed managers of the Department of Veterans Affairs who have fallen down on the job. But nice try at scoring a "two-for"
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by vet999999 May 2, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
"Lawyers Say Vets Dying Waiting for VA Care"

And I am supposed to believe a lawyer, right.
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by mcapek May 2, 2008 5:03 PM EDT
"Then once we get to the VA hospital, the doctors that we see are nearly all foreigners, who have no concept of what a veteran is actually going through."
...but who else but foreign doctors would work in a government system that is NOT salary competitive??
VA System and Indian Reservation Clinics are the pits. no money, hassles, bureacracy, so talented doctors would be crazy to put up with that..

"Then when we do see a doctor, the odds of them actually treating what ills us, is slim to none. They will make excuses, act like we are crazy,"
...have you considered the possibility that they are right? and can you give some examples of "excuses" are you talking about? you want them to operate on your or something?
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by johnpatrick9 May 2, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
Please do not say that "We" sent them to war as some 50,000,000 Americans voted twice against this evil administration and rotten war. Nonetheless, they are our Brothers and now sadly our Sisters , our fellow Citizens and are to be tended and cared for. God Bless our Troops and God *** all those who had a part in sending them into a preemptive war built on a lie and managed by nitwits.
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by mcapek May 2, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
Welcome to the new UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE PLAN for America. Get used to the VA fiasco, except thousand times magnified.
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