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A CBS News Investigation Uncovers A Suicide Rate For Veterans Twice That Of Other Americans
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- All I am saying is do not leap to conclusions about a non-scientific study performed by an organization that makes it money selling hype. The results may be valid; on the other hand, the results may only be passing for what we call scientific research in this country.
Posted by grpdiver at 04:47 PM : Nov 13, 2007
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Get up off your Knees for God Sake!! I''m a Combat Vet and I listened VERY closely when that piece of Human Trash sent our kids out into the desert to look for Weapons that NEVER existed. Those kids are NOT supposed to be used UNLESS there is no other option. When our leader stands before us and LIES about the reason they die, they WILL kill themselves when they get home. You can NOT watch the Civilian Distruction of this sort of thing and do otherwise. Stop being a bootlicker for the Fascist. They are NOT worth it.. Sieg Heil Bush!! - Reply to this comment
- One very important and often overlooked reason why veterans may be killing themselves more often than the general public is the fact that many are affraid to come forward and seek mental help.
If a soldier comes forward to get help, they risk losing some of their constitutional rights - rights that they worked very hard to protect!
For instance, if a veteran is diagnosed with PTSD(Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) they can possibly lose their 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms.
Because a large percentage of soldiers greatly value their rights(especially the second amendment) they will often choose to avoid getting help thinking they could lose their right to keep and bear arms.
This is a very big problem and an issue that must be addressed! - Reply to this comment
- Unless you have fought the Iraq War, then no one has the true right to comment here.
I have and I now that I''''m a civilian again, I know no one in America cares about soldiers or the Iraq War until they have to fight in it themselves. Provided Joe Average American gets his overpriced latte at Starbucks and sits at his desk pushing e-mails, then your -average- person doesn''''t care about our mentally and physically wounded soldiers.
Don''''t tell the military you have mental problems either- you could get red-flagged for the rest of your life as "crazy". There is the whole stigma right there- being considered by a government organization to be "crazy". It can ruin your job, your family life and medical history.
Until we break this stigma as a society, we will get nowhere with this problem.
God Bless America and my fellow war vets.
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Posted by johnny343sc at 05:04 PM : Nov 13, 2007
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Well said but I disagree with your stance on those of us who came before being able to comment on this situation. WE, the Vietnam Vets, have thousands of our own homeless and we to see them killing themselves. Want to know why? Because it breaks our hearts to see a bunch of LIARS in Government telling us we have to "Give" people freedom. Can''t be done and YOU folks are finding that out. Sieg Heil Bush!! - Reply to this comment
- johnny343sc --- Most of us are vets & have more than earned our right to comment ------- Bush is going to veto adequate funding for our vets.
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johnny343sc,
Re: "Unless you have fought the Iraq War, then no one has the true right to comment here."
What a selfish and ignorant comment. Everyone has the right to comment on the illegal and disgraceful war. Shame on you for trying to deny the opinions of others.
Re: "then your -average- person doesn''t care about our mentally and physically wounded soldiers."
That may be true, but I predict that they soon will.
Re: "Don''t tell the military you have mental problems either- you could get red-flagged for the rest of your life as "crazy". There is the whole stigma right there- being considered by a government organization to be "crazy". It can ruin your job, your family life and medical history."
This seems to be a big part of the problem.
Re: "Until we break this stigma as a society, we will get nowhere with this problem."
Good point.- Reply to this comment
- Unless you have fought the Iraq War, then no one has the true right to comment here.
I have and I now that I''m a civilian again, I know no one in America cares about soldiers or the Iraq War until they have to fight in it themselves. Provided Joe Average American gets his overpriced latte at Starbucks and sits at his desk pushing e-mails, then your -average- person doesn''t care about our mentally and physically wounded soldiers.
Don''t tell the military you have mental problems either- you could get red-flagged for the rest of your life as "crazy". There is the whole stigma right there- being considered by a government organization to be "crazy". It can ruin your job, your family life and medical history.
Until we break this stigma as a society, we will get nowhere with this problem.
God Bless America and my fellow war vets.
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- This is a CBS producer performing a statistical analysis? Forgive me for having my doubts about the veracity of the results. Not like news organizations have ever tampered with the data to produce (interesting produce ... producer) the results it desires. Look at the %u201Cdata%u201D and conclusions: %u201Cmost likely to have served during the war on terror%u201D and %u201Craw nationwide numbers.%u201D What is not to say the results show that people who join the military are more likely to commit suicide that people who choose not to join the military?
All I am saying is do not leap to conclusions about a non-scientific study performed by an organization that makes it money selling hype. The results may be valid; on the other hand, the results may only be passing for what we call scientific research in this country. - Reply to this comment
- "The Veteran Suicide Epidemic".
I suspect Darth Vador and the moron-in-chief will see the silver lining in all this: if the veterans keep topping themselves, it''ll save taxpayer money supporting them, and also likely reduce crime rates, since veterans make up more than, what, half our homeless. Typical cynical Repiglican viewpoint. And it''ll keep taxes down! - Reply to this comment
- %u201CThese statistics tell me we have really failed people that served our country,%u201D says Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., a member of the Veterans Affairs Committee
talk about insensitive, Murray shouldn''''t refer to our Vets as ''''failed people'''' ---
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Posted by badaxmofo at 04:11 PM : Nov 13, 2007
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Now I know you Fascist will stoop to just about any level to get a little hatred going but this is rediculous. My 6 year old grandson read that statement and got the RIGHT meaning out of it, why couldn''t you? Can''t read because you''re as Dumb as a box of rocks or just simply a Nazi looking for an angle?? Either way it''s pathetic, even for a lower than life Bootlicker!! Sieg Heil Bush!! - Reply to this comment
- %u201CThese statistics tell me we have really failed people that served our country,%u201D says Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., a member of the Veterans Affairs Committee
talk about insensitive, Murray shouldn''''t refer to our Vets as ''''failed people'''' ---
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I assume you''re joking? He''s obviously talking about the country/gov/moron-in-chief having failed to support the former troops. - Reply to this comment
- It isn''t saying "failed people", it is saying we have "failed the people" that served our country.
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- How many Blackwater or Halliburton employees have committed suicide since returning from Iraq? Just asking!
6256 vets committing suicide in one year?! There are a few words that aptly describe that figure: Appalling. Disgraceful (on the part of those of us they served for and especially for those who sent them to war). Those two come to mind immediately.
GET THESE PEOPLE SOME GOOD HELP!!! They deserve it!!! - Reply to this comment
These soldiers should instead share their pain with the traitors that sent them to fight in a lie-based war for profit.- Reply to this comment
Being duped into killing, maiming and torturing people in an illegal, disgraceful, and self-defeating war of aggression, is bound to take a toll on self-esteem.
These soldiers should not take their own lives though. They should reclaim their dignity and join the resistance.
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- This Desert Storm veteran thinks that more emphasis should be put upon Chaplains counseling soldiers in the war zone to minimize post-war traumas, etc. Making the Veteran Hospital system more accessible and less complicated would help.
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