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by mattcat25 September 28, 2007 8:00 PM EDT
"Limbaugh''''s remarks in context were about one guy who made up stories about atrocities in Iraq and claimed to be a Ranger but was in fact only in the service for 44 days ... in essence, the guy was a fake soldier."



Limbaugh, like O%u2019reilly should clarify what, and whom if he was only speaking of one person. The plurality of Limbaugh%u2019s statement leads his audience to believe that any one of our military personnel that posses a contrary opinion to the mission in Iraq are phony soldiers.

The issue isn%u2019t even if a soldier had a legitimate military career (like George Bush), the issue is Iraq and the rush to invade, occupy, divert federal treasury funds to the private sector, and abscond with their natural resource OIL.

War, Corruption, Death, and Destruction are the issues, or platform of the Republican Party and their water boy Rush Hudson Limbaugh.
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by dittomom1 September 28, 2007 7:54 PM EDT
THE FAKE SOLDIER WAS JESSE MACBETH. HE ALSO MENTIONED SCOTT BEAUCHAMP. PERIOD. NEVER ANTI-WAR SOLDIERS. RUSH SUPPORTS SOLDIERS REGARDLESS OF THEIR OPINION. THEY SERVED. THEY HAVE RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION. ANY OTHER TRANSLATION IS WRONG. matthew felling should do some research by going TO THE SOURCE before he writes. that is, after all, responsible journalism.
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by memekiller September 28, 2007 7:40 PM EDT
From Limbaugh''s own transcript:

RUSH: Mike, you can''t possibly be a Republican.

CALLER: I am.

RUSH: You can''t be Republican.

CALLER: Oh, I am definitely Republican.

RUSH: You sound just like a Democrat.

[SNIP]

CALLER: I used to be military, okay, and I am a Republican.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: And I do listen to you, but --

RUSH: Right, I know. And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon.

CALLER: How long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: You''re not listening to what I say. You can''t possibly be a Republican. I''m answering every question; it''s not what you want to hear, and so it''s not even penetrating your little wall of armor you''ve got built up. I said we stay to get the job done, as long as it takes. I didn''t say forever. Nothing takes forever. That''s not possible, Bill. Mike. Whatever. Nobody lives forever, no situation lasts forever, everything ends. We determine how do we want it to end, in our favor or in our defeat? With people like you in charge, who want to put a timeline on everything -- do you ever get anything done in your life? Or do you say, "Well, I wanted to have this done by now, and it''s not, so screw it"? You don''t live your life that way. Well, hell, you might, I don''t know. But the limitations that you want to impose here are senseless, and they, frankly, portray no evidence that you are a Republican.
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by sanfelz September 28, 2007 7:29 PM EDT
Maybe Congress will vote to reaffirm the right to speak against the Iraqi war and still be a loyal American and a patriot. Or do loyal Limbaugh-ists and Bush apologists only allow those right to those they agree with?
Of course, they could divert their attention from MoveOn and properly fund health-care and armaments for the troops.
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by smoyerjx September 28, 2007 7:16 PM EDT
Limbaugh''s remarks in context were about one guy who made up stories about atrocities in Iraq and claimed to be a Ranger but was in fact only in the service for 44 days ... in essence, the guy was a fake soldier.
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by mattcat25 September 28, 2007 7:04 PM EDT
The Republican go-to talking point for their invasion and occupation of Iraq has been %u201Cyou don%u2019t support the troops!%u201D. Even as the Republicans in the Senate killed Webb%u2019s Bill to allow for 1 for 1 equal treatment for duty versus down time between deployments, George W. Bush attacked the voice of dissent to questionable motives and statements from General Patraeus.

I%u2019m sure there are many of our soldiers that have opinion on the mission they%u2019ve been called upon to perform in Iraq. To berate anyone of these men and/or woman for holding an opinion is truly not supporting the troops.
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by smoyerjx September 28, 2007 6:57 PM EDT
Matthew Felling, you too are just another lazy journalist wannabe who fails to present the whole story because you apparently are not skilled nor creative enough to make the facts into interesting news.

When you get the facts right you can respond with credibility. Till then you are just another hack.

This is exactly the kind of cub-reporting that earns the mainstream media such low marks in PEW polls. For your next trick you should write a four word editorial, "Tase this, **** Limbaugh." I mean, that''s obviously your skill level.
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by memekiller September 28, 2007 6:43 PM EDT
Rush could clear this all up very easily. Just say that he respects soldiers'' service regardless of their political views, and support the Democratic alternative to the MoveOn denunciation that called for respect based on their service, rather than only if a liberal group attacks a Bush supporter. Anyone who is honoring soldiers rather than playing political games would support this.

The fact is, those insisting Rush didn''t say this think he did say it, and wholeheartedly agree that a soldier is "phony" if they don''t support the war, just as Rush berated the previous veteran who called for being a "phony Republican" -- not because he wasn''t a Republican and longtime Rush listener, no, what made him "phony" in this case, as with veterans, is that they disagree with him on the point of the war.

Not fake, mind you, phony.
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by memekiller September 28, 2007 5:28 PM EDT
When Dan Rather reported on Bush%u2019s grounding, you attacked the authenticity of the memos. When Aaron Broussard broke down crying on MTP about the mother left for days in a nursing home after Katrina until she died, you attacked the authenticity of the story. When a soldier writes about their war experiences in a Pro-War publication, you attacked the authenticity, claiming that soldier didn%u2019t exist. It%u2019s a standard trope with you guys to avoid the real debate.

So stop the diversion and tell me this, fellow Texan: Can you serve in the military and personally disagree with the occupation? Is there a veteran who is a Democrat you feel is honorable and worthy of respect, or is this respect based purely on partisan position? Do you show respect to General Clark? Respect for Kerry%u2019s service? No %u2013 you attack the authenticity of that service. Can you name me one person who deserves respect for their service, but doesn%u2019t agree with you or Bush politically? You%u2019re terrified of answering those questions.
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by memekiller September 28, 2007 5:18 PM EDT
Is this on the same show? The same day? How far away from this call? Do you have a link to this transcript, or am I just supposed to believe you? On MediaMatters, you can listen to the actual show, and there is no mention anywhere near the quote.

What Rush DOES say immediately before is: What Rush Limbaugh says immediately before the quote in question: "the next guy that calls here, I''m gonna ask him: Why should we pull -- what is the imperative for pulling out?" referring to the veteran who called previously. Immediately afterwards, he says you knew what you signed up for, subtext being, so stop complaining. But no MacBeth, whoever that is. never heard of them. It sounds more like he''s referring to the ones who recently died after writing the NYTs editorial.
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