Comments on: Market Tough for Older Workers Post-Layoff

Job Seekers Take Creative Tacks to Avoid Age Discrimination

[docpeter1953]

re: by darthcheney345

You are obviously a total nincompoop, that is another word for dumber than an supid, but not quiet as dumb as a complete idiot.

OK Made off first appeared 1999/2000. He finally had enough of scamming people AFTER Obama your Mama was elected, probably decided that he would be finally discovered.

Now think simply here, I am trying to put this as simple as I can so you can understand it. 2001 through 2008, Made off was running under the order of your favorite people -Cheney and GWB- with their complete and total support.

[docpeter1953]

From the above article, "Kellum expressed interest in a supervisory role coordinating an international health assistance program. A recruiter set him straight: "The people applying for that are young."
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Excuse me, what did you say your name was again? Do you have a business card?

This is what will be done prior to me filing an age discrimination cause against the recruiter and the company.

[rushlimpdrug]

Of course politicians have no clue about any of this
as they have no clue about the drain of jobs from
American born citizens.
Hire more foreign born professionals and ignore educating
American born citizens.
It is MUCH easier to come in as a foreigner to take a job
than it is for an AMERICAN born citizen to get a professional
job - and their are many excuses to do it.

Good luck to us ALL.

[darthcheney345]

Yes, for some reason nobody has told them yet.

You'd think they'd read the news once in a while.

[darthcheney345]

HAD ENOUGH YET, OBAMABOTS???

The stock market dropped 220 POINTS yesterday.

The market has now dropped back to where it OPENED on the morning of Jan 20.

IT IS NOW JULY.

ZERO IMPROVEMENT IN

[Floretta52]

Hey, darth - on the last full year of YOUR watch (2008), the Dow plummeted from 13043 to 8776 points, a loss of a third. Remember the stomach-churning days of 400-500 point drops?? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, bub.

[darthcheney345]

As you just admit, the Dow reached its all-time high of 14,000 on Bush's watch.

Obviously his policies were working, until the market lost confidence when the Republicans lost their majority in Congress.

Do the math. Obama can't hold a candle to Bush.

Obama is making Bush look good.

[darthcheney345]

If your an older employee who is asked "aren't you overqualified" ...
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"Overqualified" is the code word for AGE DISCRIMINATION.

All older applicants should IMMEDIATELY THREATEN TO SUE FOR AGE DISCRIMINATION at the first mention of that word.

[rushlimpdrug]

Perfect comment. Many HR departments are the Nazi soldiers
doing the management dirty work to keep upper management's
hands clean.

[darthcheney345]

But, as a former employer once told me, "laws were made to be BROKEN!"!!

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Madoff is a Democrat.

He was reported to the Clinton administration in 1999 and 2000, but they did nothing. Because THEY ALREADY KNEW. They had been "invistigating" him for over a year already, and they were giving him a free pass.

Now, why would a Democrat administration give a free pass to a Democrat criminal like Madoff?

[1notrub11]

This is the approach I have taken because, after 18 months, nothing else appears likely. The closer you are to average "retirement" age the more likely you are to experience the issue of not being able to re-engage. Worse, the longer you are out, the more toward the rear of the line you appear to be.
Cobra is helpful, albeit expensive, and based on your employers previous programs unless you choose otherwise. Problem: if your former employer folds you may have a problem there and have to go independent. It is a mess.
What you say about dealing with re-engagement is true and I sincerely hope that all the small businesses out there, that are the bread and butter of our society, make it. With the tax hikes that are coming, it will be more difficult to make a profit, but I think a lot of consumers will do their best to help them in the current environment. I know we will.

[1notrub11]

Some of these comments, I could agree with and understand. However, it is fairly difficult, if the resume is written accurately or well, to hide experience for a job and years in employment. So I do not buy that a hiring manager or the HR rep does not see this up front.
It is much more likely they are trying to attain inexpensive employee. This I can even understand from a business perspective. However, you very frequently pay for what you get and I have no sympathy for someone who fishes in that pond and doesn't like or is afraid of what you get.
An employee can leave any time for any reason - I do not see the argument that an older person could leave as valid.
I do agree that jobs are posted, due to the law, purely for internal purposes. It's a two edged sword.

[jschmidt27]

For older workers, like myself, I would suggest going the consultant route if you can. Companies will be more likely to hire them until they're sure the economy is back on their feet. Plus it gives employers a shot at what you can do. You have 18 months of Cobra, maybe $12k per year for a family, that you can use to bridge the health care gap. If you go with a consulting firm, they will have insurance you can pick up maybe at full cost, and they will pay the employer part of SS. All situations are different but this is an alternative instead of going out on your own. Networking is the key. Small businesses are better to work for than large ones which often have fixed HR requirements that older person has trouble getting past. If you go from a small, mid size business to a very large company it can be a culture shock. Establish what pay you can survive on and go after that or slightly hire. But it is difficult to take a 30% or more drop from what you are making. Good luck to the job hunters and bravo to all the new small businesses. I hope you can survive with the tax hikes on businesses that will be coming. As the Dems in CT say, if you don't make a profit you don't have to pay the 25% increase in business taxes.

[1notrub11]

This is the approach I have taken because, after 18 months, nothing else appears likely. The closer you are to average "retirement" age the more likely you are to experience the issue of not being able to re-engage. Worse, the longer you are out, the more toward the rear of the line you appear to be.
Cobra is helpful, albeit expensive, and based on your employers previous programs unless you choose otherwise. Problem: if your former employer folds you may have a problem there and have to go independent. It is a mess.
What you say about dealing with re-engagement is true and I sincerely hope that all the small businesses out there, that are the bread and butter of our society, make it. With the tax hikes that are coming, it will be more difficult to make a profit, but I think a lot of consumers will do their best to help them in the current environment. I know we will.