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allulosers says:
If I have an agenda, then so do you and it will ultimately come down to a battle of our supposed ideologies. You will lose in an economically hostile environment.

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Posted by Fahren451

I have lost nothing. I have no agenda on here other than to point out persons of the modern liberal mindsets supposed infallibility of how they percieve society should be governed.
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fahren451 says:
If it means that much to you, then yes, you are correct. No one is completely self sufficient. However, in the context of how I was using the term, I was describing his self sufficiency in the aspect of being able to take care of himself without the need for govt reliance.

Posted by ALLULOSERS at 10:56 AM : Jan 10, 2009

The government enforces the laws that keep our system of living intact. Rush is dependent on the government to keep the wealth that he has attained to maintain his "self sufficient" life style. Is this simple enough for you to understand or are you going to continue to distort the meaning of my word to suit your agenda?

If I have an agenda, then so do you and it will ultimately come down to a battle of our supposed ideologies. You will lose in an economically hostile environment.
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allulosers says:
By the way, how does your quote counter the validity of mine? You are claiming mine is a distortion. It is up to you to prove that my quote is not genuine and you have not provided that proof.


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Posted by Fahren451

FAHREN -- Your response to this is classic liberal thinking. I ask you this: Why would be up to him, to prove it? Why not YOU prove that you are right? Is it because you are relying on someone else to do your thinking for you? A classic liberal thought process...


Look, I would love to know what it is that you think makes me a "liberal". Posted by Fahren451

Your own words give it away.
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allulosers says:
Now, the mere fact that Oreilly "misspoke" about what prize he had won, sent the liberal Al Franken on almost a 6 year mission to discredit the man merely because of that issue.

In fact, Franken even wrote about it in his book (and I wont plug it here).

So, having said that FAHREN, this discribes an almost mental neurosis of a need of self gratification just to prove someone wrong.

This is exactly what you are doing with the term "Self-Sufficient" that I laid out earlier.

If it means that much to you, then yes, you are correct. No one is completely self sufficient. However, in the context of how I was using the term, I was describing his self sufficiency in the aspect of being able to take care of himself without the need for govt reliance.
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allulosers says:
Please quote where I am looking to for or justifying "self gratification". This is just an outright distortion.


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Posted by Fahren451

Sure, I''ll lay out a perfect example for you that I think you might understand:

A few years ago, there were two individuals of different ideological philosophies, sharing a stage at a book signing event. Those two individuals were Bill O''Reilly, and Al Franken (keep in mind, this is just one example)...

Franken had mantled his show to a point of almost a fixated mission, to prove O''reilly had to be discredited for everything he says simply because he made a statement that he received a polk award, when actually he received a "Peabody" award.

Continued......
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fahren451 says:
JMAGAROTZ -- Without making is seem like I''''m "bagging" on FAHREN451, it is plainly simple to see, what this individuals thought processes are (ie, being a liberal).

In his mind, his ideology is what is deemed "Good" for his view of a country. However, history has already shown us time and time again, that modern day liberalism does more to destroy the fabric of a free nation, than does than does that same collective philosophy does to "Cure" a nation and keep it free.


Posted by ALLULOSERS at 10:44 AM : Jan 10, 2009

Look, I would love to know what it is that you think makes me a "liberal". And since you use this word again and again. Maybe you should define it. Because its original usage was defined as open to new views. Jesus was a "liberal" of his time, even Mohammad was a "liberal" of his time.
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fahren451 says:
I, sir or madam, have read more than a few of the "Founding Fathers" quotes, enough to know a selective hack job when I see one. As for the word "Ignorant", I will leave you with these words, "Ignorance can be cured but, Stupidity is Terminal". There is no kind description for those who would twist the words of others to suit their adjenda. For example: "THE Tree of Liberty is a fragile one. Its Roots must occasionally be watered by soaking the Rich." Is your fabrication, the quote reads as follows:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure". Thomas Jefferson
Go fabricate loser.



Posted by jmagarotz at 10:28 AM : Jan 10, 2009

"THE Tree of Liberty is a fragile one. Its Roots must occasionally be watered by soaking the Rich."

-- Thomas Jefferson

By the way, how does your quote counter the validity of mine? You are claiming mine is a distortion. It is up to you to prove that my quote is not genuine and you have not provided that proof.
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allulosers says:
JMAGAROTZ -- Without making is seem like I''m "bagging" on FAHREN451, it is plainly simple to see, what this individuals thought processes are (ie, being a liberal).

In his mind, his ideology is what is deemed "Good" for his view of a country. However, history has already shown us time and time again, that modern day liberalism does more to destroy the fabric of a free nation, than does than does that same collective philosophy does to "Cure" a nation and keep it free.

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fahren451 says:
Posted by jmagarotz

JMAGAROTZ -- FAHREN demostrates the fabric of what I''''ve been discussing this morning with his every post.

The typical liberal mindset, as you already know, will fabricate anything and everything to suit his/her need for self gratification.

Self gratification, by whatever mean achieved, is one of the most important character traits of a liberal.

Posted by ALLULOSERS at 10:31 AM : Jan 10, 2009

Utter rubbish.

Please quote where I am looking to for or justifying "self gratification". This is just an outright distortion.
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fahren451 says:



I, sir or madam, have read more than a few of the "Founding Fathers" quotes, enough to know a selective hack job when I see one. As for the word "Ignorant", I will leave you with these words, "Ignorance can be cured but, Stupidity is Terminal". There is no kind description for those who would twist the words of others to suit their adjenda. For example: "THE Tree of Liberty is a fragile one. Its Roots must occasionally be watered by soaking the Rich." Is your fabrication, the quote reads as follows:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure". Thomas Jefferson
Go fabricate loser.



Posted by jmagarotz at 10:28 AM : Jan 10, 2009

Put the rest of my quote in context then.
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