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While UAW Is Blamed For Detroit's Troubles, Comparison To Wages Paid By Foreign Carmakers Isn't Whole Story
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- Too me the soul is your sense of inner peace & contentment with your life & the world around you.
You are right in that if there is a God, some folks will be real surprised when the elevator they get in only has a down button.
Posted by Questionnews at 05:47 PM : Dec 19, 2008
Good point, I see what you meant, and I have lost all that for sure...
I''ll never get it back either.. - Reply to this comment
- Both management and labor unions are to blame in the auto mess. So both should take pay cuts to make their company competitive and making a quality product sure wouldn''t hurt either.
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- Posted by IDNNSG - The repukes just want to do one thing: destroy the middle class!
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Shoot, that''s the ONLY thing in 8 years they actually managed to get done! - Reply to this comment
- Anyone who was around for the 70s Arab Oil Embargo understands when the pendulum started swinging the other way. And the buffoons in Detroit, both management and union, chose to stick their heads in the sand and chant, "We''re America! We''re number 1!", instead of keeping in touch with the market. There''s so much arrogance and isolation, so deeply rooted in many aspects of industry, I wonder if we''ll EVER be able to square things up.
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- Oh,,I have my soul. But if there is a God, there''''s alot of people here on earth right now, that will have some es-plaining to do.
If there truly is a God...
But, I was talked into the biggest scam of all,,the American dream, and tried to make it work.
H3ll,,I gave my all....
Posted by slim1h2o at 05:40 PM : Dec 19, 2008
Too me the soul is your sense of inner peace & contentment with your life & the world around you.
You are right in that if there is a God, some folks will be real surprised when the elevator they get in only has a down button. - Reply to this comment
- Tough having to choose between your health & soul and your home & creature comforts.
Posted by Questionnews at 05:34 PM : Dec 19, 2008
Oh,,I have my soul. But if there is a God, there''s alot of people here on earth right now, that will have some es-plaining to do.
If there truly is a God...
But, I was talked into the biggest scam of all,,the American dream, and tried to make it work.
H3ll,,I gave my all.... - Reply to this comment
- Sort of, I was raised in a place where, if you had a job, you were lucky, and did whatever it took to hang on to it.
Also, it didn''''t help that I had just bought a house, and was roped into the whole situation of trying to keep the house, or losing everything that I had worked for.
I ended up having a breakdown(over health issues), and lost evrything anyways.
Posted by slim1h2o at 05:29 PM : Dec 19, 2008
Tough having to choose between your health & soul and your home & creature comforts. - Reply to this comment
- The SOUTH is trying to out do Detroit and become the car capital of the USA. But it is destroying the auto industry in the US and before long we will have only foreign run automobile manufacturing plants in America - and only in the south.
STOP giving away our country to the best bidder. We need to protect our country and stop all this "free trade" that so far has ruined most manufacturing and related jobs in America. - Reply to this comment
- The SOUTH is trying to out do Detroit and become the car capital of the USA. But it is destroying the auto industry in the US and before long we will have only foreign run automobile manufacturing plants in America - and only in the south.
STOP giving away our country to the best bidder. We need to protect our country and stop all this "free trade" that so far has ruined most manufacturing and related jobs in America. - Reply to this comment
- I have had my time in such places, but not for too long. As soon as I had another job lined up I was out of there.
Were you in a small town with little choice?
Posted by Questionnews at 05:23 PM : Dec 19, 2008
Sort of, I was raised in a place where, if you had a job, you were lucky, and did whatever it took to hang on to it.
Also, it didn''t help that I had just bought a house, and was roped into the whole situation of trying to keep the house, or losing everything that I had worked for.
I ended up having a breakdown(over health issues), and lost evrything anyways. - Reply to this comment
- It''s amazing that the repukes always complain about the so-called "lazy, over-paid union workers". Why don''t they complain about the incredibly lazy and stu.pid and over-paid executives, the ones that make all the bad decisions, like "let''s just make HumVees and SUVs while the price of gas goes through the roof"? The repukes just want to do one thing: destroy the middle class!
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- People need to get real and realize that it''''s the arrogance and greed of CEO''''s that has destroyed the US economy, not workers trying to get better pay.
Posted by closethippy1 at 05:19 PM : Dec 19, 2008
You are exactly right on that.
This country deserves what it''s getting right now, at/from the hands of the CEO''s, and the government... - Reply to this comment
- When I tried to put a stop to that, I was told to hit the road, and I was harrassed out of my job. After 12 yrs on the job. I was also infected by a co-worker, which I tried to fight, but without representation, I was doomed. I''''m 48, soon to be 49, and in forced retirement, due in large part to my ex-employer, and the medical er health gare system..
Posted by slim1h2o at 05:10 PM : Dec 19, 2008
Why would you stay in such a he!! hole for 12 years. Could you have gone on to a different job?
I have had my time in such places, but not for too long. As soon as I had another job lined up I was out of there.
Were you in a small town with little choice? - Reply to this comment
- Isn''t ironic that the people who make the most noise about American jobs shipped overseas and how illegal aliens help bring down wages in the US are the same people who whine about an American union of workers who are trying their best not to be treated as if they''re working in India or China?
Isn''t pathetic that the same whiners who put down fellow Americans for wanting a better pay defend the same corporations that ship American jobs overseas or who employ illegals just to make an ideological point?
People need to get real and realize that it''s the arrogance and greed of CEO''s that has destroyed the US economy, not workers trying to get better pay. - Reply to this comment
- part to my ex-employer, and the medical er health gare system..
And thats the rules that much of America works under.
So fv(k off,,,,
Posted by slim1h2o at 05:10
Oh, and BTW,,machinguy, I get no help from the government, not the health care system.
If wasn''t for my forsight,,,I''d be homeless right now.
I havn''t worked in over 3 yrs.
Is that the way America should treat it''s workers, machineguy?
Thats why we have unions.....Again...shut up till you know what you are talking about, when it comes to workers rights. - Reply to this comment
- The UAW has found a way to demand money for everything and now they are demanding it from America. Meanwhile, they brag that they raise the level of American workers.
Posted by machineguy at 04:59 PM : Dec 19, 2008
Every job I have ever worked was non-union. And I''m sorry that I did not get some kind of union job.
Without going into detail, I was forced to work non union hours(14-16 hour days) when I was ill, and I was overworked in general.
When I tried to put a stop to that, I was told to hit the road, and I was harrassed out of my job. After 12 yrs on the job. I was also infected by a co-worker, which I tried to fight, but without representation, I was doomed. I''m 48, soon to be 49, and in forced retirement, due in large part to my ex-employer, and the medical er health gare system..
And thats the rules that much of America works under.
So fv(k off,,,, - Reply to this comment
- It needs to go back to the days when the execs only get a percentage of the profits, that way when sales are down they put more effort into getting them sold, like price cuts, cash back, etc...
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- Long ago the UAW saw the greed level of management & felt that the only way to get a bigger piece the pie was to out greed the management. And it''s been a greed competition ever since, each side trying to peg the greed meter. And here we are today.
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- Again, a management problem.
Why didn''''t they require some kind of continuing education program?
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Posted by slim1h2o at 04:55 PM : Dec 19, 2008
They do!! They offer continuing education for free. But they dont demand it because then the union demands more moeny for going to school and a raise when you complete the class. The UAW has found a way to demand money for everything and now they are demanding it from America. Meanwhile, they brag that they raise the level of American workers. - Reply to this comment
- I know for certain that at one time the UAW demanded extra pay for entering codes into the computers of some automobiles.
Posted by machineguy
Again, a management problem.
Why didn''t they require some kind of continuing education program? - Reply to this comment
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