Comments on: Despite Big 3 Pleas, Auto Bailout Stalling

CEOs Berated On Capitol Hill; Congressional Leaders Say Deal Is Unlikely Before Year End

[incog-nito]

All this hand-wringing and debating over the bailout is somewhat pointless. Let''s look at what is likely to happen. If the bailout doesn''t go through now, it will likely go through after Jan 20, after Obama takes office and the Democrat-controlled congress reconvenes. Will Detroit survive until then? Of course. Just like the Wall Street bailout, they''ll always tell you they need the money NOW or it will be too late. Will the bailout save Detroit? Probably not unless they drastically change their ways, which is unlikely. What is more likely is that they, and other industries, will ask congress for even more bailout money later to stay afloat.

[alpenausa]

The auto industry did this to themselves, how dare they ask the taxpayers to bail them out! They still are flying on corporate jets. simply unbelievable. unbelievable.

[retmilspouse]

Most employees may visit a doctor once a year, and so this money is simple collusion between management and insurance.

Posted by brianbwb at 09:49 PM : Nov 19, 2008

What a stupid statement. Where have you been living on the moon. Health Insurance is the most used and abused thing going right now. That is why premiums are so expensive, employees and their families think its some unlimited pot of money and keep their rear ends at some kind of medical appointment constantly. Over use it whats driving the price up.

[retmilspouse]

And using $25 billion to help out the American workers is a small price to pay but you keep spouting Republican lies so there''''s no use in going any futher with this on you

Posted by itdfactsu at 11:17 PM : Nov 19, 2008

Oh give yourself some time. As soon as you get a talking point from another site that you can transcribe over to this one to call your own you will be back in business. Quit using the sos that has been warmed over for years. Frankly some of us are tired of hearing it. Get a thought of your own!

[itdfactsu]

Funny...Congress is upset that these guys flew in corporate jets to the meeting. Who just spent upwards of $900 million on election campaigns for jobs that pay a measly few hundred thousand a year? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!! You didn''''t see Obama booking flights on USAir or Northwest to get from place to place, did you?




Posted by djpompea at 11:39 PM : Nov 19, 2008

Really of all the trivial things to bog American''s minds with

That''s just a typical tactic of the Ultra Wealthy via the media spin masters

Propaganda at it''s finest

And today Mitt Romney the anti US worker spin master was talking down labor again

[djpompea]

Funny...Congress is upset that these guys flew in corporate jets to the meeting. Who just spent upwards of $900 million on election campaigns for jobs that pay a measly few hundred thousand a year? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!! You didn''t see Obama booking flights on USAir or Northwest to get from place to place, did you?

[itdfactsu]

It is not up to me to save them.




Posted by PCreversed at 11:02 PM : Nov 19, 2008

Guess what twit brain your already going to be funding the 2 Trillion the Bush Admin has spent on the bailout

And using $25 billion to help out the American workers is a small price to pay but you keep spouting Republican lies so there''s no use in going any futher with this on you

[itdfactsu]

The media continues to sell Wall Street lies to the American people

Let''s not bailout our own manufacturing companies

Let''s support Japan''s automakers though, let them pay US workers less than a UAW worker earns so the wife can get a job to help support the family

While all white-collar management US autoworkers still earn their high salaries and receive the best benefit packages

Japan bombs Pearl Harbor 70 years ago and now American''s defend Japan before America

Typical Republican attitude toward blue collar workers you hear the same rants all the time labor is the problem, over paid with to many bennies cut that first and all will be fine

Why doesn''t the US Govt do away with the billions wasted on the Defense department?

The Republican White House already gave out &250 Billon US taxpayer dollars but unless you''re an insider

No one knows where the money went and yet out of the $250 billion that''s disappeared the Republicans say they can''t loan US auto companies $25 billion @ a %5 rate

America is mentally screwed up

US taxpayers have paid for NFL football stadiums, NBA arenas and MBL Ball Parks to the tune of over 10 billion dollars


Get ready to pay for the $200 Billion auto pension fund GOVT guarantee the Bush Admin isn''t telling you people about

[pcreversed]

IF WE DON''''T SAVE OUR OWN PEOPLE WHO IS GOING TO DO SO??????????????????




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Posted by hbevis at 10:45 PM : Nov 19, 2008

It is not up to me to save them. They dug their own graves by concentrating on building big SUV and trucks when the Japanese designed quality cars that get great gas mileage and last forever. They made their bed, let them sleep in it. Let them rot

[pcreversed]

THE WAY I SEE IT IS FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN.

START WITH GETTING RID OF THE *** CAR COMPANIES AND NOT LET THEM BRING A SINGLE CAR INTO THE UNITED STATES UNLESS THEY LET US SHIP OUR CARS OVER THERE WITH OUT ALL OF THE STRINGS THE *** HAVE ON THE U.S. CARS THAT GO INTO JAPAN.

BETTER YET, JUST DO AWAY WITH *** CARS 100%. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A *** CAR THEN MOVE TO JAPAN.

IF WE DON''''T SAVE OUR OWN PEOPLE WHO IS GOING TO DO SO??????????????????




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Posted by hbevis

Guess what, Japan has the same standards for their cars too. Our auto makers are just producing real junk compared to what the Japanese manufacture. I saw an ad for the Pacifica the other day. It sell for $29,000 and gets 24 mpg on the highway. My Honda CRV cost me $19,500 and gets 29 mpg on the highway. which you you buy. Oh, one more thing, the Honda is a higher quality and safer car, and it is a Honda. I rented a Pacifica in Seattle in July, at the end of the 10 days, I could not wait to get rid of that POS

[pcreversed]

Let them crumble. As their companies are begging for money, their executives flew to Washington in private jets and they will not even think of reviewing the issue. in their words, it is non-negotiable. I guess they find bankruptcy more appealing than sitting in a commercial airplane with us peons. Let them rot. Japanese vehicles are far more superior anyway. I would not even think of buying one of the POS that Detroit builds. They died in 1974, just nobody told them.

[hbevis]

THE WAY I SEE IT IS FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN.

START WITH GETTING RID OF THE J.A.P. CAR COMPANIES AND NOT LET THEM BRING A SINGLE CAR INTO THE UNITED STATES UNLESS THEY LET US SHIP OUR CARS OVER THERE WITH OUT ALL OF THE STRINGS THE J.A.P.''S. HAVE ON THE U.S. CARS THAT GO INTO JAPAN.

BETTER YET, JUST DO AWAY WITH J.A.P. CARS 100%. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A J.A.P. CAR THEN MOVE TO JAPAN.

IF WE DON''''T SAVE OUR OWN PEOPLE WHO IS GOING TO DO SO??????????????????

[hbevis]

THE WAY I SEE IT IS FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN.

START WITH GETTING RID OF THE *** CAR COMPANIES AND NOT LET THEM BRING A SINGLE CAR INTO THE UNITED STATES UNLESS THEY LET US SHIP OUR CARS OVER THERE WITH OUT ALL OF THE STRINGS THE *** HAVE ON THE U.S. CARS THAT GO INTO JAPAN.

BETTER YET, JUST DO AWAY WITH *** CARS 100%. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A *** CAR THEN MOVE TO JAPAN.

IF WE DON''T SAVE OUR OWN PEOPLE WHO IS GOING TO DO SO??????????????????

[tibu987]

Businesses failing for years.

Billions lost each year.

CEO''S making millions each year.

CEO''S flying around in luxury corporate jets.

Union laborers making over $75 an hour with benefits.

Making cars and trucks that do not sell.

Bail them out? Why?, they are failing companies and will continue to be failing companies.

Make sense to you? Not me.

[hitoyou1]

No bail out for junk. Your kids and there kids and ther kids will be using there tax dollars for the bailout of junk automakers.

[hitoyou1]

Ford, a junk car, GM a junk car, Chrysler a junk car. Why give someone money to make JUNK? Let them die. We let dogs die, let the auto companies die, a long with the no good UAW.

[tibu987]

No more bailouts. Period.

[incog-nito]

If you want to find out where America''s future is headed, just go to any large university. You''ll find that about half of the students major in business. Everybody wants to get rich selling, managing, "running" things. Nobody wants to do the work of discovering, designing, creating things. The problem is that there''s only so much room at the top, and that being middlemen are not exactly value-added, wealth-creating types of activities, rather the opposite.

Then go to the science and engineering schools. You''ll find that substantial number of students there are foreign students, who will be taking their science and engineering skills back to their home country. In Japan, most top executives come from engineering backgrounds, not business. Meanwhile the number of U.S. students with scientific and technical majors keeps declining year after year. It''s not hard to see where the country is headed if this trend continues.

[hitoyou1]

health insurance companies, you have to blame it on somebody. I hope no body belives this B.S. It is the Automakers that are running every thing down. Don''t belive the B.S. put out by a few dumb dumbs.

[doro501]

Sell them off to Toyota, Honda and Nissan and let the Japanese auto execs come in with Samurai swords and take care of the GM, Ford and Chrysler execs...Banzai!!