Comments on: Pelosi Outlines Auto Bailout Package

Speaker Says Automakers Would Have To Agree To New Fuel-Efficiency Standards, Commitment To Innovation

[bailmeout1]

$74 an hour? On average... that means that many make more? ***? Oh, I wonder why they are going bankrupt. Let everyone making more than that bail them out. WHY should my tax dollars go to this when I do not make that kind of money? This is insane!

[ajmarine111]

UAW Stand Your Ground.

Posted by rightbehind at 01:17 PM : Nov 16, 2008



Yes, even though the ship is on fire, refuse to do anything to help put it out.

[bhappy2-2]

I''ve said it before and I''ll say it again: If the government really wants to help the economy they would give the 700 billion to the citizens. We would pay off our mortgages, invest in new vehicles, possibly start our own businesses and thereby help the banks, the automobile manufacturers, the local stores, the local workforce and, most of all, the U.S. economy. But, if they did that, their buddies wouldn''t be able to waste 700 billion on themselves while continuing to foreclose on all these houses, etc. This whole bailout is one big fiasco. No one benefits from it except the banks, their incompetent managers and the government. The citizens are, once again, screwed.

[far_point200]

"... the problem is not the union''s contract with the auto companies."

I have some beach front property in Arizona for sale if anybody believes the statement above.

[berniepeders]

It''s no wonder that vehicles from the "big three" cost so much, when they have to pay wages like this! The unions have more or less forced the manufacturers to pay these wages over the years, driving up the cost of the vehicles. "If you don''t pay us what we want, we''ll strike, and then you won''t have anything to sell". Now they''re losing their ridiculously overpaid jobs? BOO HOO. Try getting by on $40,000 a year, you overpaid slobs!

[berniepeders]

God D-a-m-n, am I the only person who is shocked that the AVERAGE union wage is $74.00/hour, and non-union is $47.00/hr? ***?! I''ve been a union worker for fifteen years, running my machine in a plastic factory, and I make a little over $20.00/hr. Man, I''m in the wrong business! I hope these greedy b-a-s-t-a-r-d-s DO lose their jobs! Jesus!

[pirmin3]

Everyone in the Congress is on the take. Period. They set their own salaries, perks and give our tax dollars away like it''s candy on Halloween.

[hitoyou1]

This Bit-- is going to run the tax payer dry. Talk about an idiot. She needs to leave Government. She has to sleeping with somebody in the UAW. Why else would she even think of helping the Auto people. She is a hag and she needs to get out.

[seah5]

The Goal is to get as much Government control over all big business and industry, banks and the market, before the Democrats Start with Government Control in Jan.

Making it easier to mandate control of the Country and the people. To nationalize and Socialize the Government and the country with no problems.

They will continue to work on the people blasting the news and media and utube so their is no resistance from the people for their plans.

The DNC-Chicago Machines Play book, playing out step by step to their final Goal.

Plenty of planning and money has gone into this and they could not of pulled it off with out all their wealthy friends and backers and know how of George Soros and company to play the economy and market.

Will the people blindly sit back or follow into the Destruction of America.

[incog-nito]

The Big Three''s biggest mistake was that they focused on profit over market share. The profit margins on big SUVs are much higher than those of regular sedans. But obviously SUVs tend to be more expensive, so Detroit was also steadily losing market share to the Japanese imports when it comes to sedans and first-time buyers. As this segment grows older, they of course tend to be loyal to the brand they know.

Detroit needs to build cars that younger, less affluent buyers want, or they will continue to fall further behind.

[incog-nito]

There is no special technology needed to make fuel-efficient cars. First, make them a little smaller. They don''t need to be tiny econocars, but neither they need to huge SUVs that barely fits in a parking space. Second, reduce the horsepower. A family vehicle or commuter car doesn''t need to have 3-400hp. Not long ago 150hp is just fine for a family sedan. Performance might be reduced a little, but unless they''re drag-racing most people won''t even notice. With the reduction in size, performance may not even be an issue.

These two steps alone is enough to significantly increase fuel-efficiency and reduce dependence on foreign oil. It''s just a matter of doing it. Newer technology will come along, but they''re still expensive for consumers at this time. These are the things manufacturers can do right now.

[rational_1]

It''s too bad Nancy Pelosi is such an old hag and will not have to suffer the failure of Social Security. All this money they''re wasting on these idiotic bailouts could have been used to help bolster that giant Ponzi scheme called Social Security. So, let''s just prop up companies that build products few want to buy at the expense of our retirements. Lovely.

[promaclaura]

Here are some wages of individuals I know: Plant Manager-130,000, Financial Controller/CPA-84,000, Human Resources Mgr.-100,000, Electrical Engineer with Masters in Computer Programming-120,000. Anyone want to tell me why a lineworker with no degree deserves comparable wages?

ps. material managers, marketing specialists, cost accountants, quality managers all make within 50,000 to 100,000 a year. The high end wage being what they make closer to retirement, some will not make close to 100,000 although it is something to strive for.

[qutlaw104]

How much money has the goverment alredy to develope more fuel efficient autos. how did they spend that money and where are the cars.

[promaclaura]

UAW Stand Your Ground. 19 more republican Senate seats will be on the blick in 2010. The automakers helped this nation win the second world war. We should not turn our backs on them now.


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Posted by rightbehind at 11:02 AM : Nov 16, 2008

I believe you should base your arguement on what is happening in 2008, not WWII era. The rest of the world has caught up to us and in order to compete we must adjust. Not adjusting has brought us to where we are at now.

[promaclaura]

I also have other family members who are in unions that are not related to the auto industry. These individuals also believe that the UAW is ridiculous.

[promaclaura]

I know it - you''''re not telling me anything I don''''t know. I used to rent an apartment, and the landlord''''s kid got a job there right out of high school - two weeks after his graduation party.

But this doesn''''t exempt jamesm12341 from making fun of them, laughing at their demise, because he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and NEVER worked a day in his life.


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Posted by IwasHungry68 at 11:00 AM : Nov 16, 2008

I don''t know anything about James life and I do feel that alot of UAW workers will suffer because of the UAW convincing them of a lifestyle that is not in reality.

What REALLY hurts is watching the foreign automakers setting up shop in the south where there is lower taxes and NO unions. Man, we need those jobs here, but Michigan''s taxes and unions drive them away. I''m sick, because we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

[promaclaura]

Many non-union automotive workers in Michigan HATE the UAW. People should see it up here, UAW workers have all the "bling", "toys" and "huge homes" and still cry about execs trying to "stick" it to them. We all know who is sticking it to us, the UAW.

[promaclaura]

any autoworker that hasnt been training for new career....deserves what they get

Posted by jamesm12341 at 10:39 AM : Nov 16, 2008

Part of the problem is the UAW continually pulling the wool over their eyes. Convincing their members they deserve these out of bounds wages and benefits simply because they belong in the union. A desire to better oneself is eliminated when your already handed everything on a silver platter.

[promaclaura]

Did you get your first job on your own merit, or did someone "get you in"?
Posted by IwasHungry68

My God Hungry, this statement is what the UAW is all about! Receiving high paying jobs, not from their merit, but from who they know in the union.