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by spiritwalk September 19, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
I am a bit confused here. I guess I am kind of dumb when it comes to understanding political parties and maybe someone can explain it to me.

In 1860 the Republicans were the liberal, Federalist Party and the Democrats were the conservative Ant-Federalist Party. In essence, that was the basis for the Civil War. The Republicans said they wanted a strong federal based government and the Democrats wanted less federal control. Now the Democrats are the liberal, federal party and the Republicans the conservative anti-federal government party. How did that happen?

I would have assumed that if the individual voters had changed their positions they would have just changed parties. It sounds though as if the power brokers running the parties abandoned their positions and altered them to go along with the political winds. But, that can%u2019t be what happened.

I know that the people who are at the top of the party systems would not be so cynical as to give up the values they said they believed in just to remain in a position of power. Let%u2019s face it, the NAACP and the Ku Klux Klan aren%u2019t going to just switch positions without a good reason. So why did the Republican leaders and the Democratic leaders switch positions? It wouldn%u2019t be to keep themselves in power. Would it? We can trust the parties not to abandon their values as an expediency of holding on to power, can%u2019t we?
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by vranger September 19, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
I completely believe the poster below who claims that Obama writes his own speeches. They are completely empty of real content and meaning, just as his entire legislative career has been. ROFL
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by jjp735i September 19, 2008 11:41 AM EDT
Everything Bush touches fails. And once again not one single person who caused the problems will pay the price but the tax payers will. George W. Bush is an arse and should be flushed from the White House.
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by geneonlbk September 19, 2008 11:32 AM EDT
Bush has been very good for the wealthy class and toxic for America and much of the world. He has shown himself to be stupid and callous. He has demonstrated that he is incapable to telling the truth and that his agenda is really Chaney''s neo-con agenda. Now people want four more years of the same or even worse. Go figure.
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by kcblogger September 19, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
Spirit -

I am not the average political nut... I have studied politics for over 25 years with a degree in it. I know what the fore fathers intended... I have read the Federalist Papers... I also know there are things we can control and things we cannot control and when things are beyond any control. However, I have also followed Obama for over 5 years. I have known who he was long before 99 percent of the entire population had ever heard his name... I know he writes his own speeches I know he has no time right now to write his own speeches because he is concentrating on many many things that you have no comprehension of... I know he does however proof his speeches and makes the necessary changes before he presents them to you. I know he has no ties to oil nor does he have ties to defense contractors... I know he does not have the backing of the pharmacutical companies or the insurance companies. I know where his campaign money comes from and I know you are starting to annoy me.

So... like I said.. just go away... well... unless you can figure out how to get this country back to the origination of what our fore fathers intended for this great land of ours before you and I end up in the soup line... GET IT? GOT IT? GOOD!!!
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by spiritwalk September 19, 2008 11:19 AM EDT
Obama and McCain do not reflect their own views. They reflect the views of their party platforms. That is why they keep seeming to contradict themselves.

Obama and McCain do not express their own views, they read the speeches that their speech writers provide them, that is why they keep saying dumb things like "lipstick on a pig".

This is why Reagan was such a great political candidate. Candidates are just actors telling the story that will amuse people and get them to buy some Borax.

Just watch the candidate. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. The power brokers don''t want you to have a brain to think about what is happening, the heart to really care about anything else but your own interest nor the courage to try to change the system.
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by spiritwalk September 19, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
kcblogger

I guess the debating point "a rat''s azz" came from your time on the Oxford Debating Society.

If you don''t give a rat''s azz about the Federalist Papers the don''t give a rat''s azz about FOX. They are the same thing.

And if you don''t care about what the Founding Father''s said then don''t trot out the Constitution only when it suits you. It is not a a la cart menu.

The media doesn''t know what it''s talking about, I don''t know what I am talking about and now the Founding Fathers didn''t know what they were talking about.

Is there anyone who knows what they are talking about besides you?
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by kcblogger September 19, 2008 10:59 AM EDT
Spirit-

go away
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by spiritwalk September 19, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
kcblogger

Why should the power brokers stop controlling the news when it is working so well. FOX is doing a tremendous job. You just parroted their entire agenda and they have you thinking that you are against what they are saying.

Sounds to me like they know what they are doing. you have to admire anyone who can come up with propaganda that can get the opposition to support you and not know it. You can despise them, but you have to respect them.
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by kcblogger September 19, 2008 10:50 AM EDT
Spirit -

I do not need a lesson from you. I have several degrees and one is in Political Science. Another is in American History. Save your looking down your nose for someone else who gives a rat''s azz about the Federalist Papers. This situation is way beyond your history lesson on what the Fore Fathers wanted for this country. That is why I don''t wish to discuss this with you. We are way beyond that right now.
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