Comments on: Want A Raise? Merit Pay May Be Only Way

Study: U.S. Workers Can Expect Skimpy Raises In 2009 Unless They Get One-Time Compensation

[whitemale08]

Just another example of Reaganomics and excuses that disciples of "trickle-down country club" economists use to explain the devastation of the "middle-class".

These apostles and disciples of this false religion never research their own philosophers of fiat-currency and the "inflation tax" on the poor and "middle-class".

They falsely believe that you can war and carry on war without a price, without taxing the Wall Street crowd and the very weapons industries that profit from such treason.

These enemies of the "middle-class" namely Republicans will never understand the reality of our failed economy until it effects them directly. And it will.

You can see the empty billboard signs every where you go, the empty gas stations and half filled grocery shelves everywhere.

You guys have failed and need to go 8 IS ENOUGH!!!

[irliberal]

"A study released Tuesday by Hewitt Associates, a human resources consulting firm, found base pay will rise by 3.8 percent in 2009, marking the seventh consecutive year of flat growth."

Wow... just after Clintons 8 consecutive years of steady growth. That''s Dubya for ya.

GO OBAMA / BIDEN 2008! Time to kick out the neocons, they''re over - done - toast.

[rhs648]

correction

Depends on the boss. Many of them prefer "cheap" over "loyalty".

The 1950s were indeed a far different place...--------

Posted by hypnotoad72

Yes indeed the 1950''s was a different place. During WWII it was difficult to find much in the way of consumer goods. The military employed millions of men leaving a labor shortage back here in the states. Women went to work. At the end of WWII, many families had fairly sizeable savings. On top of that, the GI Bill made it possible for millions of men to further their education and buy homes. This helped create prosperity for the next 30 or 40 years. Today, we live in a global economy with fierce competition from countries like China where labor costs are so much lower than our own. Today, you can buy a shirt at Walmart for $5.00 where you may have spent $15.00 twenty years ago. In 1982, an Aplle II Plus cost several thoudsand dollars. It did not come with a color monitor or a hard drive. Today, it is possible to buy computers for as little as four or five hundred dollars.

[rhs648]

Depends on the boss. Many of them prefer "cheap" over "loyalty".

The 1950s were indeed a far different place...--------

Posted by hypnotoad72

Yes indeed the 1950''s were a different place. During WWII it was difficult to find much in the way of consumer goods. The military employed millions of men leaving a labor shortage back here in the states. Women went to work. At the end of WWII, many families had fairly sizeable savings. On top of that, the GI Bill made it possible for millions of men to further their education and buy homes. This helped create prosperity for the next 30 or 40 years. Today, we live in a global economy with fierce competition from countries like China where labor costs are so much lower than our own. Today, you can buy a shirt at Walmart for $5.00 where you msay have spent $15.00 twenty years ago. In 1982, an Aplle II Plus cost several thoudsand dollars. It did not come with a color monitor or a hard drive. Today, it is possible to buy computers for as little as four or five hundred dollars.

[rhs648]

Just think how much worse you will be when Obama raises taxes on businesses - then you for sure will never get a raise.

Posted by OneAmerican

You have proof of this? or just more scare tactics...?

Posted by jtdev1

As a small business owner I can tell you exactly what happens when profits are squeezed by higher labor costs and higher taxes. The first thing you do is to look for ways to save money. Often, this means looking for less expensive suppliers, cutting back employee hours, cutting back on employees, and cutting back on raises. If you look at newspapers, their revenues are way down. This means they have fewer employees on board and the remaining employees are given more duties. My neice just got terminated after many years at a newspaper company even after she went from managing one department to managing three departments. Ultimately, businesses that can''t make a decent profit fold leaving employees with very little.

[hypnotoad72]

So as I said, this is nothing more that the same "Trickle Down Economics" that never trickled down anywhere...


Posted by jtdev1

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Seems more like "trickle on" economics. :( On paper, the theory is passable. Decades'' worth of reality is starting to show something different.

[hypnotoad72]

Depends on the boss. Many of them prefer "cheap" over "loyalty".

The 1950s were indeed a far different place...

[lochlan-2009]

It''s going to be a hard time for salaried employees. The only people who are going to have a continued decline in their worth, due to inflation, is this group. Retailers pass the inflation to these people already, and unions will push their people just above the inflation curve with the help of Dems. Contract workers can just switch jobs several times over the next year and a half, and the poor, well, minimum wage is going up, what was it 40%, and the Dems are going to own the three branches. But the buck stops at the 10,20,30 year employee, who might see a 3.5% (4.5% is smoke up your ***) increase in pay per year while the economy sees double digit inflation.

Invest NOW in the dollar, and short the commodities and foreign major currencies. American business, for the most part are at bargain basement right now. The stock market, long term, safe bets (auto industry, union businesses, basically dem businesses (everything that is currently at the bottom)) are where you should be putting your money.

[redveg]

Only idiots believes that corporates will, without being forced, reward those who perform well. There are a few exceptions, but most corporates keep the money at the top no matter how well their people perform. If they lose talent to someone who pays better, they don''t care because they have already pocketed their bonus for keeping salaries down and are ready to move on and screw another companies workers and stock holders.

[jtdev1]

Just think how much worse you will be when Obama raises taxes on businesses - then you for sure will never get a raise.


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Posted by OneAmerican




You have proof of this? or just more scare tactics...?

[oneamerican_]

Just think how much worse you will be when Obama raises taxes on businesses - then you for sure will never get a raise.

[mytoosense]

Most American''s havent had a decent raise since Clinton was in office!

GOP stands for Greedy Old Pri cks.

[mawskrat]

we negotiate a new contract every 3 years with a no lock out- no strike clause.seems to work for us.

[jtdev1]

This all sounds fancy, a lot like the "Trickle Down Economics" that never trickled down...

See, I would for a boss that believes you can never go above and beyond because he expects me to go above and beyond...

Example: I learned 2 new programming languages in 2 months, took on 2 new projects and beat my release date by 2 weeks, all while still doing my regular job. I stayed up all hours of the night and really kicked butt to get it done, but still never got more than the standard 3% raise and his reason was this: "I expect you to go above and beyond, so your only meeting your job''s expectations..."

Ain''t that a kicker.....


Typical Corporate BS....

So as I said, this is nothing more that the same "Trickle Down Economics" that never trickled down anywhere...