Comments on: Honda Unveils Zero-Emission Automobile

Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car Emits Only Water; Limited Number Headed To Southern California

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by cyinzl8r June 16, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
I hope that people will take a realistic look at what electric cars are currently able to do. I drive most every day to work about 25 miles round trip. We have the technology right now to make a car that will go 250 miles on one charge and will use (zero) gallons of gasoline.

http://www.spectrum.ieee.or
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PUT UP OR SHUT UP. where does electricity come from. How much is lost in the transfer of said electricity. GET REAL.
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by cyinzl8r June 16, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
Where does hydrogen come from? Most say oh just put a battery in some water and then electrolosys makes hydrogen. Sure if you want to throw %97 of your energy away. Where is the cheapest place to get hydrogen? OIL you freakin geniuses.
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by fstop100 June 16, 2008 6:17 PM EDT
Look out the oil companies will be after you.
electric cars work

why can''t we build small nuclear power plants?
we put them on submarines and carriers.
Don''t tell me we don''t have the technology.
Big Oil just doesn''t want us to stop buying their oil.
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by ouwxquack June 16, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
Actually, that''s not how water vapor works. As a meteorologist, I suggest reading about positive feedback loops caused by water vapor.
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by pat1967-2009 June 16, 2008 5:42 PM EDT
The advantage of fuel cell/electric over battery/electric is increased range and less time to recharge. Current battery/electrics (nice pun) take almost as much time to charge as they do to discharge otherwise battery life suffers.

While it is true that water vapor (clouds) holds heat near the ground at night it also reflects heat back into space during the day. Try to convince the folks in Seattle or San Francisco that water vapor is causing their cities to heat up. I think that they would laugh you out of town.
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by enlightenu June 16, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
Hate to break it to you guys, but water (vapor) is a greenhouse gas and it can make things just as nasty as CO2. It''''s a great idea to try and get distanced from big oil, but the efficiency and overall use of hydrogen is not any better (in fact, worse) than gasoline. Go electric!
Posted by ouwxquack at 01:31 PM : Jun 16, 2008

Actually water vapor reflects sunlight back into space before it hits the ground, thus reducing heating.
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by aggiekat2004 June 16, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
Yeah, but the American auto makers are tied into the gas and oil companies...

Lobbyists, special interests...it''s all corrupt.

While we''re at it, why don''t we tap into some of the abundant oil under our OWN country, and ease the pain?
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by ouwxquack June 16, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
Hate to break it to you guys, but water (vapor) is a greenhouse gas and it can make things just as nasty as CO2. It''s a great idea to try and get distanced from big oil, but the efficiency and overall use of hydrogen is not any better (in fact, worse) than gasoline. Go electric!
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by gmcnally2 June 16, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
It is ridiculous that they are going to use the fuel cell instead of electric. We could all generate our own energy and then what would they sell us? Let''s go Nanosolar and EEstor, how about some updates and production?
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by godofredo29 June 16, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
This is the beginning of the end for big oil.
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by aeasus June 16, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
Sadly CBS has removed this story from the "main" headlines :(
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by aeasus June 16, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
Any fuel source that breaks the monopoly oil has on transportation is a step in the right direction. If oil had to compete for it''s sales it would be much cheaper!!!!!
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by mjm121 June 16, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
Posted by smcoh326 at 10:45 AM : Jun 16, 2008

You are simply a lunatic. You don''t have to be a fan of Al Gore or a believer in the green movement to want to pollute less. I just understand people like you. Less polluting good wether or not you believe in global warming.

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by June 16, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
What ever can be done to get away from oil consumeing vehicles is find with me.
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by pkeberly June 16, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
"After all the huge profits American car manufacturers made in the last 20 years selling SUVs and Trucks, Japaneses car manufacturers lead the world to the future"

Ford did, check the date:
http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=19297
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by pat1967-2009 June 16, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
smcoh326---

Al Gore aside, reducing our CO2 emissions can do nothing but be a positive. What bothers me about CO2 is that it is not in equilibrium in our atmosphere. It has been on a steady increase since the beginning of the industrial era. As the Earth is more or less a closed system, everything that is done on the planet somehow affects something else. We can not continue to increase CO2 in the atmosphere without something happening eventually. I''m not suggesting here what that may be, but something will happen.
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by fishinfool43 June 16, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
Way to go Honda!! I wonder how many ideas like this were bought up by oil companies to keep us at their mercy and keep their record profits going up. It''s no wonder why American car manufacturers are getting their azzes kicked. They deserve every bit of it.
I have owned several cars from 1963-1969 full size with small V8 motors that got at least 20 mpg. There hasn''t been much improvement in 45 years
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by lovegetpeace June 16, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
Folks,
After all the huge profits American car manufacturers made in the last 20 years selling SUVs and Trucks, Japaneses car manufacturers lead the world to the future.

Shame on Wall Streets and Americans.
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by pat1967-2009 June 16, 2008 1:37 PM EDT
Try Home Fuel Stations?

Honda is working on that as well.

In 2003 Honda established an experimental Home Energy Station that generates hydrogen from natural gas for use in fuel cell vehicles, while supplying ...

http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/F
CX/station/



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Posted by neonink at 10:19 AM : Jun 16, 2008

This idea, while working in the short term, is really a non-starter for me. The use of natural gas implies an open carbon cycle. Unless the carbon is cleanly sequestered somehow we are not really fixing the long term problem of CO2.
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by pat1967-2009 June 16, 2008 1:33 PM EDT
How about giving them to engineers like me, so someone with some technical knowledge will be able to properly evaluate these vehicles. As for the supply of Hydrogen; why not sell a small electrolysis appliance along with the car so the owner can make their own fuel? Why not dedicate a few hundred square miles of the desert southwest to the production of Hydrogen via solar power? Seems a no brainer to me%u2026
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